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they were both by a friend, and I knew the posts were going to get downvoted anyway.

That's... some pretty twisted rationalization on your part. I'm not saying it deserves a lifetime ban or anything, but at the same time, please leave that kind of entitled "the rules don't apply to me and my friends unless I feel like they should" mentality in the trash. I know I might be wasting my time if you're truly into the anarchy mindset but like, anarchy only works until the moment your needs overlap with another person's needs, and a community like this is full of people with different needs, and if you try shoving your views where they're not wanted, that kind of anarchy has consequences and you're going to suffer them. Including but not limited to bans, and general lack of sympathy.

Just saw this

I was the one that banned the offending accounts to be exact 4 of them:

There could be a few posts I upvoted by mistake on an alt without realising I already voted on it.

I don't believe this at all based on your actions.

I mean, lemmy.ca doesn't have a rule against vote manipulation, and what I did was pretty inconsequential.

While Lemmy.ca and Piefed.ca doesn't have any explicitly specified rules stated about vote manipulation, everyone here on the Fediverse has already implicitly agreed that vote manipulation is a violation against the principles of trust. In plain English it's just scummy and gross. Reddit is shit but even us who migrated from there already know that this kind of behavior is highly inadvisable/digusting to say the least.

While i did upvote 2 posts with the alts, they were both by a friend, and I knew the posts were going to get downvoted anyway.

Once or twice (potentially depending on circumstances) could be waved as an accident. As exhibited by the screenshot provided above, logging into 4 different accounts to upvote the same post accidentally I don't believe for a goddamn second.

and I knew the posts were going to get downvoted anyway.

Also going back to this, this is a terrible reason/justification. Myself and fellow Fediusers that I interact with know that some assholes will downvote in bad faith but that doesn't give us nor anyone else the justification to create accounts to upvote ourselves or each other. This just create a positive feedback loop for all the wrong reasons creating what is commonly known as an echo chamber. There also exists parallels to "Yes Men" situations/systems.

Look if it's a bad idea to do as a mod/admin then it's probably also bad to allow anyone else to do this.

I 1000% understand just how upsetting and frustrating it can be to see things downvoted. But this is not the right way to correct/improve things here in the Fediverse.

Currently based on your actions; I see little to no reason to believe that you would interact (voting, commenting, posting) on our instances/services or with our users in good faith.

To discourage vote manipulation, personally I believe the bans should work/remain in place as the clear consequences for having done so. The other Lemmy.ca/Piefed.ca admins are free to disagree. @mp3@piefed.ca @otter@piefed.ca @Shadow@piefed.ca @smorks@piefed.ca @TruckBC@lemmy.ca

For anyone reading if you don't vote manip then thank you🌻. You are the role models we need🫡.

Votes don't matter, and neither does what random moderators think. You can ban anyone for any reason, or no reason. Don't sweat it. Keep voting how you like, any way that's convenient and makes sense for you. As long as you're not setting up bot farms to vote for you, anyone who is put off by it is just that kind of person.

I mean you broke the rules, there are consequences, not much else to say

There any request or just letting us know? :D

lol total overreaction IMO, because votes on lemmy don't do much other than helping with sorting/displaying. don't get me wrong: i think it's a very cool feature, but even if someone actually up- or downvoted with multiple accounts, it's very irrelevant at the end of the day.