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Hey all. I'd like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.
I want to preface this by saying this is not in a 'ceding the issue' way. Over the past year I've been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I've internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.
The reason it's taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.
I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.
The consensus we've roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I'll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we'll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.
Prior to the current genocide, I agreed with the idea that having an emote of a burning star of David was a bad look. I think that was wrong then, and it's even wronger now. We're not the ones who put that on the flag, the Zionists were, and burning their flag is most assuredly not an expression of antisemitism.
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I say we embrace our heritage as the dirtbag left. I feel no particular gulit towards people who feel like they are catching strays when we say we don't like genocide.
Like, if I was upset about crakker down posting you would rightfully tell me to post hog.
Burning the israeli flag, the flag of an illegitimate terrorist settler-colonial state commiting genocide, is based actually, both irl and using emojis no matter the pearl-clutching by liberal zionists masquerading as "anti-zionists" on this (mostly western userbase ofc lmao) site. Demod whoever was spouting zionist talking points and a big fuck you to all the crakkkers on this thread and everywhere else who defended them and also retorted with zionist talking points. Goes to show how pathetic the supposedly "left" in the west is that after nearly two damn years of a huge escalation on a genocide that's been ongoing since 1948 they still care about the feelings of the oppressors and colonizers and looking bad in the eyes of the public. Next y'all are gonna say it's islamophobic to have an emoji of burning the ISIS flag cause it contains the Shahada lmao (except they wouldn't cause unlike israelis ISIS isn't mostly white people so there would be no hesitation). "You really just wanna burn the star of David" nah we just wanna BURNT THE FUCKING FLAG OF A ROUGUE GENOCIDAL STATE. Equating judaism with zionism unironically is what makes one an antisemite. Not to mention the Star of David being used to brand palestinians and their homes both before and after 7th of october. But I digress, gives us the emoji and eternal death to israhell and the west and all it's supporters. Can't have shit on any damn site where so many people still haven't unlearned western propaganda istg. If the concern is that an actual antisemite comes in and uses the emoji for actual bad purposes then ban that mf. We have 
which is based for stuff like the treatment of the indigenous population and I don't think anybody raised alarm about potential racists coming in and using it in nefarious ways. Probably cause Brazil isn't a white country unlike israhell and time and time again it shows many here haven't unlearned their subcounscious biases.
Made sense to me at the time, but two years of genocide on I just don't care anymore. There's something to be said about the pushing of the symbol as part of the zionist project, too, but honestly I don't even think that's really important as more than an academic point. It just feel gross to be precious about this this far along.
Counterpoint 
: All emojis 
should be banned 
to address the literacy 
crisis on this website 
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The actual function of "ban evasion" bans is to stop other users from agreeing with recently banned users
Add the emoji. Zposter definitely uses sockpuppets(the alt witchhunt isnt great either) so idk if they should be unbanned.
The users in that other thread who are still actively making Zionist arguments shouldn't get away with their behaviour though.
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I already posted my vote so I'll post this interesting quote I found on the ml just now:
::: spoiler spoiler From Palestinian academic Afif Aqrabawi just the other day.
"The Star of David is no longer a religious emblem; it is the geometry of pain, the symbol of massacre and the face of evil.
Palestinians meet it on warplanes, checkpoints, tanks, and uniforms that invade their homes and drag away their children. For decades it has meant occupation, humiliation, starvation, death — the corporate logo of apartheid.
Every incinerated body, every bombed hospital, every mass grave is signed with that star. It is policy, a brand of ethnic cleansing and genocide.
The Star of David is a hate symbol that performs the work of hate: it terrifies, injures, dehumanizes, and proclaims our suffering as divine order. It is not neutral. It is not redeemable. It has been weaponized too completely, for too long. What remains is only the insignia of a terrorist organization that slaughters children under its banner — the flag planted in Gaza’s ruins, the badge of a system built on our extermination.
The Star of David is the mark of my oppressor; to claim it is to be a child-killer and my enemy."