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"California's biggest electric utilities pulled off a record-breaking test..." reports Semafor, "during the 7pm-9pm window that is typically its time of peak demand as people come home from work."

Pacific Gas & Electric and other top California power companies switched on residential batteries in more than 100,000 homes and drew power from them into the broader statewide grid. The purpose of the test — the largest ever in the state, which has by far the most home battery capacity in the U.S. — was to see just how much power is really there for the utility to tap, and to ensure it could be switched on, effectively running the grid in reverse, without causing a crash.

The result, which the research firm Brattle published this week, was 535 megawatts, equal to adding a big hydro dam or a half-sized nuclear reactor at a fraction of the cost. "Four years ago this capacity didn't even exist," Kendrick Li, PG&E's director of clean energy programs, told Semafor. "Now it's a really attractive option for us. It would be silly not to harness what our customers have installed...." Last week's test proved that in times of peak demand, PG&E can lean on its customers' batteries rather than turn on a gas-fired peaker plant or risk a blackout, Li said.

Virtual power plants (VPPs) also facilitate the addition of more solar energy on the grid: At the moment, California has so much solar generation at peak hours that it can push the wholesale power price close to or even below zero, a headache for grid managers and a disincentive for renewable project developers. The careful manipulation of networked residential batteries smooths out the timing disparity between peak sunshine at midday and peak demand in the evening, allowing the excess to be soaked up and redeployed when it's actually needed, and making power cheaper for everyone. The expanded use of VPPs shouldn't be noticeable to battery owners, Li said, except for the money back on their power bill; nothing about the process prevents them from running their AC or dishwasher while their battery is being tapped. The network can also run in reverse, with the utility taking excess power from the grid at times of low demand and sending it into home batteries for storage.

California could easily reach over a gigawatt of VPP capacity within five years, Li said. Nationwide, a Department of Energy study during the Biden administration forecast that VPP capacity could reach up to 160 gigawatts by 2030, essentially negating the need for dozens of new fossil fuel power plants, with no emissions and at a far lower cost. In 2024, utilities in 34 states moved to initiate or expand VPP networks, according to the advocacy group VP3.

Even with a reduction in federal credits, virtual power plants "offer a way for residential solar-plus-storage systems to remain economically attractive for homeowners — who get paid for the withdrawn power," the article points out — and "a way to make better use of clean energy resources that have already been built."

Sunrun's distributed battery fleet "delivered more than two-thirds of the energy," notes Electrek, "In total, the event pumped an average of 535 megawatts (MW) onto the grid — enough to power over half of San Francisco... This isn't a one-off. Sunrun's fleet already helped drop peak demand earlier this summer, delivering 325 MW during a similar event on June 24.

"The company compensates customers up to $150 per battery per season for participating."


Abstract credit: https://slashdot.org/story/445384

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I'd be disconnecting my battery from that grid and ensuing I can use it as a backup for my house which is the only reason I would ever have it on my house in the first place.

there will be issues in the future, and you won't be allowed to use your own power because it will be diverted to companies for profit. watch..

[–] l_isqof@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

As much as that's true, having it automated may work well for most until the power cuts start.

For one I'm too busy or lazy to keep on top of my solar generation every day, and such a system could help excess generation which is likely to be topped up over the next day.

As the system owner, I can also turn off the main switch, stopping power entering or leaving the house.

[–] speedingcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Agree completely. Pge is corrupt, and this’ll give them permission for shoddy maintenance of the grid.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Have been noodling on home batteries for a while. Curious. Can they remotely just turn on the return feed without your permission? Can you say: "Nah, not today" or is part of being tied into grid that they get to drive?

Also, is there any advantage to being tied to PG&E if you have enough solar and battery to cover your entire usage?

[–] signaleleven@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago

It should be configurable to limit draw and depending of SoC, and it should be compensated. But it should be possible.

If you are connected to the grid you participate in the grid. You shouldn't be allowed to avoid it, unless you go off the grid entirely.