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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.
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Can a gas powered car be considered vegan, with all the ecological impact of gasoline production and use?
I'd say so, at least in theory. Veganism is about non-exploitation, not ecological impact. That said, there are plenty of other reasons to avoid gasoline.
Thank you.
Can you define "non exploitation"?
My understanding is that leather is a waste byproduct of the meat industry, so much in the same way that gas is from dinosaurs that are already dead, the cows that provide leather are "already dead" due to their use as meat.
So in that sense, it seems like leather is the more ecological choice, though not knowing your definition of exploitation, it may or may not be exploitative. I certainly wouldn't consider it vegan though.
Leather keeps the beef industry profitable when it’s wreaking havoc on our environment.
Can you define “non exploitation”?
I probably could, but I cannot say what Donald Watson or Leslie Cross or anyone else meant.
My understanding is that leather is a waste byproduct of the meat industry
It is a co-product, and it directly supports the industry.
so much in the same way that gas is from dinosaurs that are already dead, the cows that provide leather are “already dead” due to their use as meat.
Dinosaurs did not die as a result of humans exploiting them in order to consume their bodies. Cows live and die solely for the sake of exploitation.
Oh, I'd like to add a follow up to that, given that any fossil fuel are dead animals from yesteryear. So if veganism is about non exploitation of animals, then the question has to be raised: can a car using fossil fuels be considered vegan, given that almost 80 of its carbon footprint comes from the fuel, according to an article posted the other day.
Also, I'd like to ask if veganism as depicted here, care about the exploitation of those who build the cars? I'm not saying anybody is great in the regard, but scrolling the list different manufacturers presented has a different pedigree on the issue.
It is not possible to exploit today someone who died millions of years ago.
As for what humans do to each other, I'm not the one to ask. I don't think that "animals" in the original definition of veganism was intended to include humans, but I don't know that for sure. I doubt that the linked article considers exploitation of humans in determining which cars to feature.
"pay to reject" 😮💨
Wait, what? What did I miss?
The cookie options. Agree or pay to disagree
Shit. I use uBlock Origin and block all javascript by default, so I didn't even see that. I'll add a warning to the post.