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"I don't answer questions. Am I being detained?"

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Law & Order as the number one authoritative source for interactions.

When the SVU makes arrests, during interrogations: “You have to talk to us, cooperate and we can put up a good word with the district attorney. Confess now and we can work on a deal later. If you don't cooperate with us we can't help you.”

The exact same cops the very second one of their victims is arrested by another department for an unrelated crime: “DON'T TALK TO THEM, DON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTION, ASK FOR A LAWYER, REJECT ANY OF THEIR DEALS!”

[-] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Dude, do not get me started on bullshit copaganda shows. I have rants.

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 16 points 10 months ago

"You're lucky the victim isn't pressing charges"

Yeah it's not up to them

[-] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Aw jeez, how many DA's does one city need??

[-] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago
[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

Every day is Shut the Fuck Up Friday

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

The 25 word script:

  • Why did you pull me over?
  • I'm not discussing my day
  • Am I being detained or am I free to go?
[-] Leshoyadut@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Don't forget:

  • I invoke the 5th.

(You only had 21 of the 25 words.)

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

I knew what it was without even clicking on it.

Shut the fuck up.

[-] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Truly words to live by. :)

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I choose to invoke my right to remain silent.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

You need to look up the exact verbiage for your state, because with some you have to say it correctly or they can use it against you in court.

The best thing to say is, "I will not be answering any questions without an attorney present." This should shut down any questioning immediately.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

I was just wondering about this presentation, specifically what he thinks about being able to record your interaction with a phone now (no he said she said). Still better to not say anything that can be used against you. Will watch again!

[-] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but I am 100% for recording ALL of your interactions with the police. Up until recently (2020) in my state the police were abusing an anti-wiretapping law to prevent citizens from recording them, but since then:

This right was established in a case brought by ACLUM, Martin v. Rollins, 982 F.3d 813, 827 (1st Cir. 2020), which was consolidated with another case, Project Veritas Action Fund v. Rollins. There, the First Circuit said the Massachusetts Wiretap Statute’s criminalization of the secret recording of police officers in public spaces violated the First Amendment.

You're within your First Amendment rights to record police and your interactions, surreptitiously or not, at any time. State law cannot supersede the Constitution. You benefit because the police are often intentionally slow (see any number of articles posted here in this community) to release their own bodycam footage, and often go weeks if not months or years providing a false narrative to the public. Record it yourself.

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