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Been learning to weld, what do you think? (hexbear.net)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by QuillQuote@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net
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Decided to make a sierpinski's tetrahedron as a first REAL project! I built a shitty angleiron workbench (with an old door ziptied onto it as the tabletop) before but I'm actually trying this time so it's different

170 welds completed so far crab-party !! So, only 346 left to go!!... doggirl-tears

This was a really good idea until I remembered how complex fractals are, like GIRL, DUH, fuck was I thinking hahaha

Its REALLY scuffed though, I'm talkin like using my stick welder to melt a half inch off the end off of the pieces I had precut to make it shorter so it will fit in the actual dimensions needed, I've been holding the smallest (~2") pieces with a wrench and holding it in place freehand. It's been a lot of fun so far, and I'm definitely improving as I go, I weld my welding stick to my stock way less often now, and achieve arc much more reliably too, which is cool to see my own progress within the project!

I hurt my shoulder a bit ago so I haven't been able to do much lately, but welding is pretty low impact in that I mostly just sit on a folding chair in my driveway next to my shitty workbench lol

Have some more views!

When it's done it'll look like this image I found on google

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Insufficiently hexagonal

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're on the wrong website pardner deng-cowboy

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm not saying this to be an argumentative debate-bro, and it's been a long time since I've forgotten abstract algebra, let alone found myself able to quickly work these things out, but l think usually where there are equilateral triangles, there are hexagonal symmetries (in 2d and 3d spaces)

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'll grant you that there's a square there, but there are no hexagons on that thing, I guess you could use 6 to make their bases make a hexagon tho :U

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's too late. I've already sloppily depicted my argument illustrating the flattening homomorphism between the tetrahedra and a hexagonal graph in multiple colors, without regard for anybody's eyes

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, but I have already depicted myself as the cool hexagonal graph, and you as the - also cool - tetrahedra.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What hexagonal symmetries mean is slightly different from a shape being made out of hexagons. If you were to take a hexagon and rotate it a certain amount or flip it you will end up back where you started. You can make a set of actions that keep the shape the same, that would look something like {60° rotation, 120° rotation, 180° rotation...}. That set is its symmetry group. If an object has hexagonal symmetries, it has the same set, so even if it looks nothing like a hexagon you would be able to do all the same things you'd do to a hexagon and keep it the same.

edit: source if you wanna learn more

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

happy cake day btw

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh shit Quill, been forever since I've seen you around. This is looking really cool and I hope to see it finished.

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hiii!!!! It's good to see you :D Thanks so much ^~ ^

never fear, I will definitely post updates!

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm thinking, "Did you measure the door?"

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh yeah its largest edge size is 18"

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Shoutout to my rug for co-starring in this post

[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

that rules

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is so fricking cool!!! Do a rhombic dodecahedron next!!! jk haha unless...

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I very well might do a Menger Sponge to use as a table or stool or something, but that's a cool shape too! do you have a particular affinity for it?

Side note but I found it while googling just now and apparently this lady made this KICKASS origami menger sponge, holy shit

Photo looks weird tho, but I can't tell if bad 90s camera or editing happened

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hello quillquote ralsei-wave

Very cool tetrahedron

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hello! Long time no see comrade!

Thank you very much :3

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

...I keep saying I won't buy a cheap welder, then all these cool hobbyist comments. I don't have space. Wait till after I can build a big shed...

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what you can build the shed with? A welder.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm... you devil.

Welp, no choice but to watch five hours of shed-welding videos and gauge my chances of hilarious DIY accidents.

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

if you could kill yourself easily with an arc welder, I would be super mega dead right now

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

if you have a patch of grass you can put a folding table on within range of an outlet (mine is plugged into a long ass extension cord that is plugged in IN MY KITCHEN cause I don't have outside outlets) then you have the space!

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[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

GOOD SHIT

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh wow that's really cool! I'm going to start learning how to weld next month, but it's mostly as a support skill for my woodworking. Clamps specifically are insanely expensive where I live, so being able to make my own clamps from cheap flat iron bars will save me a preposterous amount of money in the long run. Your tetrahedron looks sick, way beyond the level of complexity I think I'll aim to achieve in welding lol congrats!

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It is HUGELY useful with woodworking projects so far.

Plus, unlike when you glue wood stuff its instantly strong so whipping stuff together for even a jig or such can be really really fast, and super sturdy.

My next practical gambit here will be making some tools for myself, I've also been learning blacksmithing (I have an adorable little 20kg anvil and I turned a pressure cooker into a forge) but with my shoulder hurt I've been.... not blacksmithing for the time being :(

P.S. please share your design for your clams when you build them, I too could use more clams and I LOVE making shit instead of buying it if possible

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cool but it's not a hexagon

EDIT: Should have known before posting that I am not an original person

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

no-copyright Too slow

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s really neat! It’s been a while since I’ve welded, but I did go to school for it. If you have any welds you’re not fully satisfied with and want some constructive criticism, feel free to post some close up shots and I’ll do my best to help you out. (I also just like looking at welds)

I’m more familiar with MIG welding than stick, I ditched that shit as soon as I could. Props to ya for pulling this off with stick!

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Thank you for the offer! I will definitely take you up on that once I get a chance to clean up the welds with a grinder to see how bad they actually are lol

I am REALLY looking to ditch stick also! I bought the CHEAPEST welder I could to see if I liked it and I do so definitely fuck this method lol

Could you recommend me a specific mig welder that's not super expensive but you know is quality? There's like 10000 different ones available and they all look like identical slop to me

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly couldn’t help you with the shopping aspect of it, I’ve only really used the welders in my class or workplaces.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

A small thing that will help a lot is getting a steel wire brush and scrubbing the site of the weld before you try to strike the arc. It clears the area of the oxide layer and makes it easier to start and get a cleaner weld.

Have you been beveling the weld locations?

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s been a while since I’ve got the chance to talk welding with someone so my neurons are lighting up. I miss it so much. I need to get my own setup arranged because I refuse to do it as a full time job.

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hell yes, bring on the enthusiasm sister!

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

oh HELL no I haven't haha, my main focus was to stay as on grid as possible with the structure, but I've been doing most of it without any prep on the materials

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Ah, okay. If you take a grinder to the edge of the material to create a little bevel, it can help get a better penetration on the weld and get a bit of a flatter weld. You’d have to lower your heat a bit and change the angle to redirect the heat towards where the metal is thickest though.

You’re probably fine as is, it doesn’t look like the material is that thick, but with thicker material a small bevel of 1/3-1/2 of the thickness can help a lot.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

(I’m gonna try and reel in my excitement on having someone to rant to about welding now.) doggirl-smart

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[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice work! I’ve always wanted to learn how to weld but never really had the chance. Maybe someday.

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Got everything I used for like 200$, not including the steel used, you definitely should if you get the chance!

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hell yeah

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

very cool doggirl-thumbsup

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been holding the smallest (~2") pieces with a wrench and holding it in place freehand

a very cheap quality of life improvement here would be some welding magnets so you don't have to hold the work

[–] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

YO, THANK YOU

[–] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

that's awesome!

[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What sticks are you using?

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