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And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it

(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The mouse driver used with the Commodore 64's GEOS operating system uses 3 blocks on disk, less than a kilobyte.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

That driver was using 0.5% of system resources! I thought it would be worse when I saw "259 blocks free", but overall that's pretty good.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But did it support RGB?

Didn't think so, checkmate!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

A lot of fancy early RGB mouse came with a companion app that needed 10MB at most, and that was ridiculed.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 day ago

The driver for your mouse occupies a few kilobytes. The shitty app and AI garbage bloatware occupies the rest.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Use the offline installer, which is for offline and airgapped machines. It turns off the AI prompt builder as well as all the telemetry shite:

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/11570501236119-Logitech-Options-offline-installer

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

AI prompt builder? What? It's a fucking mouse??????

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is repulsive to me in its entirety but apparently the vibe coders dig it.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

But it has AI? If your mouse doesn't have AI, you're living in the past

Edit: ~~post~~ past

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

Give me the past or give me death

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 8 points 21 hours ago

There's something inside you
It's hard to explain
They're talking about you, boy
But you're still the same

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Don't look up how much space Nvidia drivers take then.

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[–] orionsbelt@midwest.social 197 points 1 day ago (17 children)

maybe this will help, if you wanted to ditch the logi driver:

https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices that connect wirelessly to a Unifying, Bolt, Lightspeed or Nano receiver as well as many Logitech devices that connect via a USB cable or Bluetooth. Solaar is not a device driver and responds only to special messages from devices that are otherwise ignored by the Linux input system.

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[–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

holy fucking shit. I once programmed a mouse driver for an 8 bit computer with 32kb of ram. I don't remember the exact size of the compiled driver but it was under 1kb.

Today's tech companies probably couldn't even figure out a way to make a hello world in python without it needing 100gb of storage, an Intel Core9/AMD Ryzen 7000 or better, an internet connection and an online user account.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

The actual driver for an HID USB device, even on WIndows, is still just a few KB.

Worse, the default driver for HID devices like mice, keyboards, joysticks, gamepads and so on is part of Windows since Windows 7 and all you had to do was give it an INF file that really just associated USB hardware devices that sent the PC a specific identifier (made up of a VID and a PID value) on USB protocol initialization, with that built-in driver - and that file is maybe 100 bytes. Even better, that INF file is not even needed anymore since Windows 10.

A driver for a mouse (pretty much the simplest Human Interface Device there is) that in addition to the normal mouse thing also supports setting the RGB color of some lights is stupidly simple because the needed functionality is already in the protocol.

Remember, modern digital electronics still uses really tiny processors sometimes with less than 32KB flash memory (and way less than that in RAM) only they're microcontrollers rather than microprocessors now, hence the protocols are designed so that they can be handled by processing hardware with little memory (after all, many USB Hosts aren't PCs but instead are things like USB HUDs which have microcontrollers not microprocessors)

I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that almost the entirety of that 1GB is bloatware.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe a Docker or two, perhaps a VM in the cloud. Is that still hip with the kids?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 18 hours ago

All the cool kids are running kubernetes

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wtf AI in your mouse driver?

Oh yeah, totally not logging your every mouse movement, no sir, not at all!

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s training itself to pass those mouse based “I’m human” checks that some sites use.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago

That’s hilarious. But might actually not be a joke.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

what the fuck?? why would a mouse need ai? ancient computer user here who is very confused lol

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

~~To better know everything you do and train it on AI.~~ i mean, To improve Productivity and convenience.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

To better track you. I mean, "enhancing your user experience."

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[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago

The driver consumes a few KB. The bullshit software that you don't need to install is what's consuming the GB.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please don't be Logitech, please don't be Logitech...

Damnit.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't contribute at all to the conversation but BOOOOOOO to them for that nonsense.

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