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A community for posting examples of sealioning and similar forms of trolling

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  2. This is not a community for trolls. this is a community for raising awareness of these types of trolls and how they operate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.[5][6][7][8] It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate",[9] and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.[10] The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki,[1] which The Independent called "the most apt description of Twitter you'll ever see".[2]

Sealions are adorable animals. the trolls, not so much. If you see an example of sealioning, feel free to post it here!

Quick example would be something like a person saying "the US is currently ran by a fascist who supports genocide", which is referring to Donald Trump supporting Israel. The sealion will reply with "who? What genocide?" the sealion knows what the person means but pursues them for relentless requests of evidence as a way of trying to waste the person's time. recognising sealioning is the most effective means of dealing with them

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That was a really good troll. We've had very few that good on lemmy thankfully. Note to people just finding out about sealioning, best ways to counteract is to downvote, clarify in one comment, and then move on. If you're explaining, you're losing.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They always refuse to reconcile with the incredibly detailed reporting by human rights organizations about exactly how it fits the definition of genocide

I had one try and argue that I must be a conspiracy theorist for saying the ADL isn't a reliable source and is ran by Zionists lol

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 1 day ago

I feel like there are definitely propaganda accounts on Reddit who are professionally engaged in creating a "debate" about whether Israel is actually doing anything wrong at the end of the day, or about whether it's a bad thing that company X is farming puppies to be used in ritual sacrifice, or whatever the issue is that whoever-with-money wants to create a disagreement about.

Just like on Lemmy it's impossible to say definitively whether this person is one of those accounts, but it would explain the hostile tone and total lack of interest in absorbing what the other person is saying on any level.