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[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago

I'd jump immediately if it had a stylus.

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You can get them in the U.S. with /e/OS through Murena, but they are $900 :(

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

you can get them in the US.

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[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (6 children)

I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

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[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 29 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I hope my phone lasts until we get a framework phone.

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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.

[–] ayane@lemmy.vg 15 points 19 hours ago

I hear you! Though I don't mind the lack of a 3.5 mm jack¹, it is still an anti-feature, and I fully agree that the TWS style of in-ears are antithetical to the repairability ethos. It's especially bad when they sell one themselves.

Until Linux phones reliably support 5G communications with major carriers (this is a kernel driver issue for modems), I'm going to run with my current phone until it crumbles... Or at least until someone comes out with an actual modular phone where the mainboard can just be swapped as with desktops and Framework laptops.

¹I use a very high quality "dongle" DAC (Moonriver 2) and it gives me a cleaner, lower impedance, higher power output than any phone's on-board audio can. If I'm going to be using wired headphones, might as well go all the way.

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[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 185 points 1 day ago (75 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 152 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

You can get good Bluetooth earbuds for under $50 and a USB-C to AUX dongle for under $15.

The average person is fine with Bluetooth earbuds or an adapter, and audiophiles would not find the inbuilt DAC/amp on a phone to be adequate.

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[–] xvapx@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (15 children)

People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.

People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.

In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.

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[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very strange how mine can somehow fit a 7000mAh battery, dual SIM + SD card slot and a regular jack. Hmm...

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 24 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 59 points 1 day ago (17 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

is the bootloader locked with eos?

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