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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 56 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You'd only get second-hand smoking if you spent every day in your life in the tourist hellhole of central Amsterdam. Try going to Germany instead, everything and everyone reeks of cigarettes and they even have vending machines for them in plain sight in amusement parks.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I swear, smokers in Europe have atrocious social graces with no concept of personal space. Even at the busiest and most cramped cafes, they will light up at the table with you or standing next to a doorway, and then act like you’re the problem if you’re annoyed or upset about second hand smoke. Beer gardens and outdoor seating almost universally include a carcinogenic haze, it just ruins the meal/drink imo to be tasting the air between bites

At least in America the social stigma is strong enough where they scurry off to their ~~opium den~~ smoking area and get their nicotine hit with their brethren. Go in peace friend, you do you over there to y’all’s lungs

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sweet summer child, you should have seen Europe at the turn of the century.

I've seen doctors pulling out a cigarette and start smoking in the middle of a ward. Any place you'd go at night - a cafe, a bar, a pub, a disco - and you'd nearly vomit at how your clothes smelled the next day.

Everything and everyone smelled like tobacco.

Nowadays? It's paradise I tell you.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The US used to be a lot like this too. Food service workers smoking cigarettes while they carve meat and then throwing the butts in the drain. Smoking sections in restaurants being most of the restaurant while the non-smoking section was a corner of the restaurant where they just sat you between all the smokers like the smoke was gonna hit an invisible barrier. Everybody was smoking all the time. My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates.

It wasn't until around the 2000s that things really shifted in the US, and now the thought of a smoking vs non-smoking section of anything other than a little room at the airport where the smokers all squash into to smoke is unheard of.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

"My grandma once served my grandfather his breakfast in an ash tray because she was so sick of him putting out his ciagrettes on the plates."

Ha, this is an excellent story

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

can confirm (germany), it's gotten better but in my childhood there was literally just a cig vending machine outside my block, like 30-40m away from a playground

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The US used to have those vending machines in bars and some restaurants too, up until the 90s. The smoking section of restaurants was mostly an invisible line that cut the room in half, so you could have a smoking table literally right next to a non-smoking one.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago

Fun fact, this is how I got about half of my cigarettes in high school. The local dive had the machine by the back entrance which was around the corner from the host stand. You could easily use it without being seen. And on the rare occasion someone did see you and said something all you had to do is tell them to mind their own business and leave because the entire process took about 30s.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

While I am regularly annoyed at smokers in restaurants, at bus stops/train stations and in pedestrian zones, you haven't felt "everything" until you go to e.g. Turkey (as much as I love the country)

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

And it's damn tasty. herring and raw onions are amazing. That sad pickle slice can screw off though.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I’d try it. Is the skin meant to be eaten after pickling, or does it remove easily?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It's very soft, you eat it with the skin. The Dutch version of salted herring is the nicest one (compared to Nordic and Baltic versions), it's quite mild flavoured and has a great raw-fish kind of texture. Ones which are pickled longer are still nice but can get a bit floury sometimes.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Danish pickled herring is amazing though... You really think Dutch salted herring beats it?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my opinion yeah, the texture is better, smoother, when they're freshly brined as opposed to the more crumbly/flaky texture when they're marinaded in vinegar. But Danish picked herring is also delicious.

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Crumbly? Flaky? That doesn't sound like a Danish pickled herring... They're smooth and fatty, with a light acid.

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[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

No need to remove the skin. It’ll just melt in your mouth.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I don't understand why there is a freaking slide of pickle.

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[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, there goes my appetite, this Dutch guy hates herring. Can't stand the smell, taste or texture. 🤢

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure if I've had herring but I feel the same about pickles.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the IQ is intact

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 10 months ago

As a Dutch child, we shouldn't assume too much about their starting point.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact, if you look up "Dutch cuisine" on Wikipedia, this is literally the second picture (right after Gouda cheese).

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are the little white bits, chopped onions?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Yes, raw white onion.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

One of my favorite things about visiting the Netherlands are the herring stalls :D

I prefer mine in a bun, but all forms are delicious.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

This meme is timed really well with me being on holiday in the Netherlands. But it’s also true

[–] LongLive@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Put 200 on Herring, this matchup isn't even close.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So… is that good? It doesn’t look awful, but it also does not look good to me, but I’ll try anything twice 🤷‍♂️

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

In Germany, we have pickled herring too, but this German is happy to admit that Hollandse Nieuwe reigns supreme.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 7 points 10 months ago

Seems like a waste of onion. At least get it on there!

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Its pickled, not raw. Scandinavians have been pickling fish for a very long time and it's worked out OK so far.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 4 points 10 months ago

It's been working out a lot better since the invention of flash freezing. For both sushi and pickled fish, the risk of parasites was always present. Now it's just as safe as cooked fish and it doesn't taste any different from raw.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But no baking, frying, or cooking of any kind?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No of course not, you have to pick just one of the options for your people's cusine

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm American. We choose microwaving.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It’s no different than sushi. The Dutch have lekkerbekje if you want to eat fried fish.

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