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So recently with the reports of Israel running low on AD missiles, I've been thinking. Why is it that during the "war on terror," equipment stocks never seemed to be as much of an issue. From my memory in Iraq and Afganistan and such it was more of a logistics issue vs literally not being able to produce enough. Idk, maybe my memory is just wrong here. But I wanted to ask

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[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The capital composition of the US military industrial complex has evolved quite a lot since its birth during the preparation for WWII and the primary industries involved that produced basic high use materiel like artillery shells and bullets had to diversify and switch operations to other commodities, primarily more high tech (although not necessarily useful or quality tech), less quantity, higher price stuff because they'd go bust after the stockpiles and quotas for shells etc were full.

If anyone did an economic history of US MIC companies there would be a lot of merges and repurposing of the old shell factories etc since they're very useful for long term combat in land warfare, not so much for just restocking a standing army that uses some in exercises.

Basically you have vampiric companies diversifying outside the war economy context that created them so there's no need for industrial scale production on a war economy level and they switch to producing far fewer but more Gucci missile systems and components.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Israelis only attack from the sky or drone control bases, so they need to make up for the lack of infantry with even more bombs.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the objectives this time around are more conducive to draining supplies when compared to simply occupying a militarily inferior country.

Trying to halt the advance of the Russian military and trying to level the entirety of Gaza is going to put a drain on resources

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

its also cumulative. The US has been sitting on massive weapons stockpiles since the cold war and theyve just started to get used up. A lot of the shit they used in Iraq was old stuff. I mean just look at the USS Nimitz they just sent over to Iran. It's ancient.

The issue for them now is we are entering a new era. All this new stuff is needing to be made as its used because they don't have stockpiles of it. So they can't just rely on their massive warehouses of ammo, and bombs like they did in Iraq.

A lot of the stuff the US uses is just retrofitted old shit with some new tech thrown in because it reduces cost too. So like in a fight with China for example they'll be fighting brand new, high tech, mass produced chinese gear, and using cold war era gear with newer systems slapped onto them. They'll also be paying 10x as much for the pleasure.