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It's definitely happening to 
and it happened to 
and it's also happening, slowly and gradually, to 
. It's like the martyr effect in reverse: the longer they live, the more clownish they appear, even to their own followers. Is there a term for that?
"you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
"only the good die young" is the closest i can think of
my dad used to like saying that about anyone even slightly older than him lol
"Never trust anyone over 30."
[looks at own age] uh oh
There are exceptions 
Fuck
This site is so weird. We’ve got a lot of obviously very young comrades, but also a lot of us old fucks. And some even older comrades, too.
Anyway, my back hurts
Human Enshitification?
milkshake duck
Pariah
jfc apparently it's got casteist origins
apostate, turncoat, heretic?
RENEGADE! 
:kautsky-shocked:
Outcast? I guess that'd be from the lens of the people who once followed them. Idk
too
left him off the list. Would like to see it happen way more to him too
Fall from grace?
Yes, [batman quote]
ahem
I'm gonna go full 
and point out that Harvey "Two Face" Dent in The Dark Knight said "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
So I think we should use the term Two Face. 
edit: lol other people brought this up already
How has nobody mentioned yet
