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feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 2 days ago by MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

I think it's reasonable and should be considered the default approach to defederate instances that have defederated with you. I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting ~~allegedly~~ Zionist admins ~~(and I'm only saying allegedly because I haven't read the full context yet)~~. I would suggest changing the title to say that quokk.au defederated over the Zionism rather than feddit defederated over it if quokk.au was the first to defederate of the pair.

One sided federation causing strange issues that may be confusing to users.

Also fuck Zionists and Nazis in case this sounds too defensive.

Edit: while I understand feddit admins' position and not wanting to get into legal trouble, that doesn't magically absolve them of the term Zionist. I think it's fair to call it Zionism. The legal scenario they're concerned about, if it happened, would be Zionist.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do the admins really believe that thr government with arrest an random person managing a community in a niche social media?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Either they're Zionist and lying as a cover, or they do believe it and so are unwilling to resist such a far fetched miniscule possiblity that they're doing the Zionists work for them. So yeah, Zionist is fair criticism.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

So feddit.org is full of zionists, wanting to murder all living things in Gaza? Gotcha.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarians can't handle being called out, make it harder to be called out.

Genocide is perfectly rational and normal, calling it out is a bad idea. No tought crime allowed when the government is aiding the moral and just murders.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

German bootlicker siding with the genocide state because government said so and if they help israeli here, then Germans are clear for all the crimes they committed against gays, slavs and romanis etc 🤡 and jews, obviously the jews

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

The so called anti semite law mention that it's not a biding law

[–] nichtsowichtig@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists

one of quokk.au's admins called a feddit's admin "absolute trash human being" and "nazi cunt". That seems to be the reason.

Apparently they felt so upset for being banned from feddit that they defederated their instance (quokk.au) from feddit.org altogether. Now feddit.org defederated back.

Honestly that admin just seems insulting and toxic. I'm glad that kind of stuff has no place on my instance.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump been compared to hitler and people insult people defending the terrible person Trump is. Nobody righfully complain about, but when someone insult someone defending a genocide people like you start to appear

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago

Isn't that synonymous with "Zionist"?

[–] SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Sure the admin may be unhinged, but removing a post about making a distinction between anti-zionism and anti-semitism?

I got some translation from their post on it about how they can't tolerate "accusations" of being called zionists? What's wrong with accusations? Removing the comment is sufficient evidence for it.

Also there's something there about such discussions being precarious because it's against some german,swiss laws? Can someone who knows german explain it a little better? Because it seems like "We will not discuss this because we don't like this discussion"

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Germany has laws against minimising the atrocities of the holocaust. The feddit.org admins have a personal opinion that likening the nakba to the holocaust minimises the holocaust, which would make it illegal.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Israel use same methods as nazis and the holocust. Banning comparison minimize the genocide is gaza

Is advocating for palestinians right to resistance, condemning the ideology that created the whole conflicts, banning our only real option of boycott a minimization of the holocust?

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[–] Blaze@piefed.social 27 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Comments for this post are disabled, as we don’t expect any constructive discourse here, and we don’t want to create another comment section for terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc. There are already plenty other posts where discussion can take place.

Not sure how to feel about this.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

Israel is a terrorist state and those mods defend that

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I feel badly about it. Zionists are fascists, and the Nakba is like the Holocaust. People should be able to say that. They should also be able to say Hamas is not conducting a genocide (because they don't have enough guns to do what they want). I don't support terrorism but I do think we should be conducting targeted strikes against IDF military assets without involving civilians, and I think the terrorism advocacy is mostly coming from Zionists.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

the Nakba is like the Holocaust

lol

by the way i think that's regarded as anti-semitic and holocaust denial, both of which is illegal in many countries

you can see why defederation is the least one should do

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

Semite means middle eastern person. You shouldn't deny the genocide being done against semites, it's antisemitic.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The way it's worded, it makes it sound that anyone opposed to their POV is one of "terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc." I'm hoping it's just unfortunate wording.

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