So are you saying a person could “accidentally” fire this and then plausibly argue in court that it just went off by itself? 
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The gun just did that sir
These pieces of shit are on video firing from an un-touched holster, if there hasn't been a massive class action suit there is definitely going to be.
First Sig fucked up the P365 trigger and got lambasted over it, all they did was warranty repair broken parts and "fix" the trigger/safety issue, then they release the 320 with Taurus auto-shoot enabled. I can't understand why anybody would buy or carry a Sig ever again.
I'm working on getting off mine. The P365 XL just fit so good in my hand and my budget :(
Shame they're scummy even by war profiter standards.
When it first came out the P365 was pretty revolutionary on size, capacity, and shootability, but the market's got a lot of great options now. I'm biased towards S&W because I like their ergos, I think it's worth trying a Shield out to see if it feels good in the hand too. Not like S&W is a great company or anything but at least they don't make guns that go off in a holster.
Remember the little brother controller?
This is him now!
The craziest thing about all this is how it clearly shows how few, if any consumer protections exist in the gun industry. People have spent years trying to argue with the manufacturer that they are selling an unsafe product, theres been lawsuits, but still there haven't been any meaningful repercussions for Sig. This might be a poor comparison, but childrens toys get recalled on suspicion alone whereas these have recorded instances where they've shown to have a potentially lethal design flaw.
It just doesn't feel possible to make any consumer safety regulation for guns that wouldn't ultimately "infringe" as it were.
At the end of the day it was always designed to cause massive bodily harm at a distance. Hell, Sig could just remarket the 320 as a competition pistol for like the consumer accuracy division or whatever because of the "competition read light trigger pull" and then it's a compelling sell.
To be fair I trust the public with unpredictably deadly implements more than any cop, so it's not illogical that something too dangerous for cops to handle is fine for civilians.
I touched fentanyl once without having an instantaneous, violent seizure about it or being tempted to OD in the bathroom on it.
But that's because I'm not a cop and therefore better than them.
didn't keep up with the aftermath, are there any aftermarket upgrades and/or fixes for the issue?
Kinda? Sig has a "voluntary upgrade" program that claims to replace the striker assembly with one that they claim doesn't have the design flaw that caused the issue...
However it's not clear if the upgrade fixes the root problem of the issue since the reports of misfires are still coming in.
you have to consider that cops have pudding for brains and would shoot themselves with the best, safest weapons ever designed, civilians will have much lower accident rates even with guns that have reliability problems like these.
It's not really a user error thing, these guns are literally not drop-safe and can fire while secured in a holster without being touched by anyone at all
They're just garbage guns
Not drop safe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsljmVh-GFQ
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Personally I'm looking at the P938 since Sig has a rebate going on right now....
This gun is like that onr chemical that just randomly explodes for no discernable reason
i'm doing the best i can to imagine a cartoon where some sharks are selling bangsticks to other sharks for protection
I was just showing Carv how my trigger pull is light. I got it so it's real light