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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago

We should absolutely not turn to defederation as a first action. You know how traditional social media bans opinions that are not acceptable according to themselves?

We must be better than that. It creates a ridiculous otherwise where people think everyone agrees with them and they are never challanged in how they think about things.

I think we should be exposed to different opinions as long as it's within the rules, meaning people must be polite, not hateful, not breaking the law etc.

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Listen cupcake, you wanted decentralized freedom. This is what it looks like. People you don't agree with exist. Grow a pair and block them yourself.

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[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If we're losing our minds over ~20 active users, then we have way bigger problems than that instance.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I have no issues defederating with an instance like that. I just don't think it matters much either way.

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[-] sixdix@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My experience with exploding-heads is they are mostly level headed serious users and not trolls at all. Defederating because one person had their feeling hurt is dumb and ruins the fediverse for everyone

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Fuckers like you are the reasons this is going to fail. Redditor neckbeard hivemind that mass downvotes everything they disagree with.

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Don't de-federate unless they're allowing the planning of violence, CSAM material, or actual abuse.

As a leftist I see it like this:

Blocking someone is: "I don't want to see this"

De-federating is: "I don't want you to see this"

Blocking someone is: Ignoring a person saying bigoted things.

De-federating is: Jailing a person saying bigoted things.

If you can't handle people saying shit you don't like then you need thicker skin. If you can't engage in a conversation with a person who shares an opinion that you fine distasteful then you need to seek maturity.

If you can't disagree with someone without physically attacking them, then you don't deserve to be part of a community. If you can't exist without abusing another person, then you don't deserve to be part of a community.

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[-] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I'd like to decide for myself what I want to see and what not, as an adult.

[-] demesisx@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I’m as leftist as they come and I do not support this action. If you don’t want to see it, mute the instance rather than creating an echo chamber.

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[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

This is silly. Just block the users/instance yourself.

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[-] rektifier@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Let's wait for per-user instance filters to be implemented, then everyone can block instances to taste. As long as their users don't cause trouble in our communities, there's no need for our instance to act as a moral guardians and decide what our users can and cannot see. Defederation is a nuclear option that should only be done if their instance is disrupting our instance's operation (spamming and breaking rules while in our communities).

I like that sh.itjust.works currently federates with almost everyone, and I can see a big part of the fediverse from here. It would suck having to visit multiple instance to see the whole fediverse.

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[-] carrot@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.

If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.

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[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

To me, Exploding-heads are on the other side of the same coin that Beehaw exists on in regards to fringe exteme ideologies and sensitive emotionally fragile admins. Defederating them both is pretty fucking dumb because it will create echo chambers that will in result churn out more idiots. Just block them via your preferred instance.

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[-] L0Wigh@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Defedarating for political reasons seems stupid to me. If it's proven that the community is toxic and full of trolls, that is an argument to do it. Anyways, as other said, for now I don't think we really need some more defedaration drama

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[-] nach@bae.st -3 points 1 year ago

@chalkman >hEy cOuLd wE deFedErate wITH exploding-heads.com/

is this the best redditors can come up with????????? :guraKekw:

[-] IlllIIIlllIlllI@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago

No. Get fucked, fascist. I should choose what content I get to see, not some power-tripping admin.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago

No, don't de-federate. If you don't like it, block it, easy as that.

Lemmy is meant to be better than reddit, which means dealing with opposing views. If they're triggering or offensive to you, block them.

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