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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] carrot@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.

If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why should the ground be lowered to a level that fits the criterias of bigots?

[–] carrot@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

If being bigoted is wrong, it doesn't take a genius to prove that, no?

I can disagree with everything they stand for, and think they are absolutely stupid, but god damn do they have a right to be. The mentality stemmed from twitter of "They are just so wrong I wont even listen or let them talk" is so ignorant and authoritarian. What if north korea censored people for saying anything negative about their government? That would be wrong to us, but to them it is based in logic.

The internet has become so used to banning expression, it baffles me. It used to be commonly agreed apon that every individual has a right to thought, and if they're stupid it should be easy to prove them so. Nowadays everyone is censoring everyone they dont like. Some people on the right wanting to stop LGBT content, someone in this thread wanting to censor the Matt Walsh documentary. I've watched it to hear his opinion, despite how much I may disagree with him. And it brought up some good points. If the documentary is so wrong, we should put it out there to show and publicly shame, no? Censorship is the weakest form of countering, no one is the moral authority they may think they are.

Sorry to make this so long but I am tired of people being willingly ignorant because they don't like what someone said. Have a nice day, stranger I disagree with.

[–] nude@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Create a level ground then. Beehaw never said they are a level ground, they are an instance that doesnt want rightoids arguing in bad faith, the same way exploding heads wouldnt want an army of lefties coming in and injecting themselves into every thread.

A level ground where people of whatever affiliation can converse is a great idea. Beehaw doesnt have to be that place

[–] eta_aquarid@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

the marketplace of ideas means fuck all when it comes to people telling you that you shouldn't be allowed to exist

[–] theory@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone with a brain cell, finally

[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they just have the one

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, huh? Sounds to me this call for defederation is just to create yet another echo-chamber.

[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no patience for "both sides" BS, anyone who uses it is obviously not worth listening to

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bragging about your ignorance isn't attractive. Try to be like Daryl Davis, it'll enlighten you.

[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good example, someone whose tireless activism that helped avoid openly racist people from getting into positions of power ... oh wait, no, they just got more powerful.

10 years of engaging on reddit taught me that the only way to combat their hateful ideas is to deprive them of oxygen

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Good example, someone whose tireless activism that helped avoid openly racist people from getting into positions of power … oh wait, no, they just got more powerful.

What are you even on about? How has Daryl's work caused KKK members to get into more powerful positions?

lmao, what a pathetic comment. "10 years of engaging on reddit"