I agree with the commenter who said they're not really opposites, but at the same time it's funny to me how ancaps and ""libertarians"" can't see they're fighting for the opposite of their ideals in paper

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is not really the opposite, the "don't tread on me"-pissflag is from a slave trader, the US cops originate from slave catchers.

[+] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com -10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It was used against the British during the American Revolution. Saying it is the same as supporting police allows zero historical understanding or nuance. Everyone in America originated from the Revolution as all were affected.

Also, the don’t tread on me flag which originated from Virginia used to be more clearly anti authoritarianism and has been co-opted in the past few years by MAGA fans

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The dude who made the falg, Gadsen, was a slave trader.

The notion is "I don't want to pay taxes. But I have no problem with selling human beings."

[+] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com -19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Your misspelling and mislabeling wanting representation as not wanting taxes continues to make your point null.

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

LMAO dude we don't have time for your yankee cracKKKer nonsense. You, your trash genocidal "country" and your fucking "revolution" (more like slave trader infighting) can go fuck yourselves

Thank every deity China is going to clap your yakubian cheeks

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Why should I waste my time writing a subhuman slave trader right?

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Idk, seems pretty easy to simply not use the slogan since it apparently originated from a slave trader. Not exactly the best slogan anyway. Incredibly vague, like anti-boot I guess in connotation, which isn't the worst thing ever outside of any historical context of its origins. But could easily just be a mindless anarchism cry, which means nothing if you aren't taking into account who is doing the ruling and who is resisting the rule.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

"I will tread on you"

Dialectics!

[–] Maturin@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not if you look at the long history of people who flew the Gadsden flag.

[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I wonder what percentage of Libertarians know who Gadsden was.