this post was submitted on 13 May 2025
32 points (100.0% liked)

games

20882 readers
412 users here now

Tabletop, DnD, board games, and minecraft. Also Animal Crossing.

Rules

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I've mostly played EU4 but recently have discovered the dlc is much cheaper than expected^[For legal porpoises I will not specify how much cheaper] and it's been like 3 years since I last played^[this footnote is ornamental].

Viccy 3 and crusader kings 3 weren't out last time.

So which is the best atm to lose time in?

edit: thanks for the recs. Ck3 seems to slap now

top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Here are my two cents: I freaking love Stellaris, but Id probably wait a couple of months until the current version gets more patches and hotfixes.

Victoria 3, while not my favorite, is fun, but it’s getting a sizeable update in June, so it’s a wait and see situation for now.

Out of the modern Paradox games, I think CK3 is the easiest to get into and the one in the best state right now.

If you like the idea of playing as a character, there’s little reason not to recommend CK3. Mind you its best played as a rpg and not as a map painter.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 13 hours ago

Victoria 3 would probably be the best if they didn't insist in the terrible war system it has (it might have been improved, but being forced to automate it is boring to me)

EU IV is in a good spot since it isn't getting anymore updates, but it suffers from being an old game.

CK3 is alright as a character simulator but the GS bit is lacking.

Stellaris has overhauled everything again so it's a mess currently.

HoI4 is for roleplaying your favorite ideological strawman, not much else.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

For me personally, Vicky 3 is the winner by a long mile. I have sunk hundreds more hours into that game than Stellaris or CK3, and EU4 was my previous favourite.

I actually think Vicky 3's developments borderline obsolete the EU series for me.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It seems that all hexbear can agree on is that hoi4 is busted and stellaris is temporarily busted. I suppose I'll need to find time to learn viccy.

Can you fuck with the English in it right proper? I think have an ancestral grudge because my number one starting goal in all these games it to evict the English from England as Ireland.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

HoI4 has always been the one I struggled to get into. I've loved Stellaris (big ups to Gigastructures mod), but not tried the recent busted-ness.

You absolutely can fuck the English in it right proper, but it isn't easy. They start as the #1 most powerful country, largely due to owning the East India Company/British Raj, and they own all the British Isles outright.

Liberating India isn't too hard if you pally up to them. But after that you kinda need a strong-ass navy (with pretty strong armies), and ideally a couple big European allies to conquer the mainland.

No major restrictions on your choice of war goals in Vicky, so you can evict them with impunity. Probably takes a fair few wars though. I've seen various European countries be evicted from Europe and are stuck as a single island province.

Bonus points if you get good at doing trade wars and using soft power. If you can liberate more colonies to deny them raw resources, and outcompete them in high-value goods, it is possible to fuck over their economy repeatedly. Sometimes they'll eventually succumb to a trade union-led revolution.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I once tried ck3 my video card was somehow about to ignite, granted it's a Chepo video card, but it's a fancy map game. Ck2 is getting no more dlc so I'd go with that one because its finished.

For the same reason I'm avoiding Viky 3.

Also, pirate, don't buy, paradox uses steam dmr as far as I know.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Stellaris is currently in a poor place. They just got another total population system rework. It's not going so well right now.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's a shame distant worlds 2 flopped. Stellaris lost a lot of flavour when they went with hyperlanes and map painting.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

I dont love Distant Worlds 2 but the game is still getting updates and support. Just saying.

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 8 points 19 hours ago

RIP my beautiful wormhole stations...

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think the most cohesive experience right now is CK3, though my favorites are Vic 3 and Old World Blues (Fallout mod for HOI4).

It really depends on what you enjoy the most out of such games, but as a blind recommendation I’d say CK3

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

It really depends on what you enjoy the most out of such games

The illusion that states are run by sane people making good plans :P

I dunno, the numbers do stuff and it's fun because the numbers affect the other numbers and if you massage the bad numbers right then the good numbers get large.

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 21 hours ago

CK3 by a country mile, it simplified a bunch of mechanics and focused on the RP, but everything works together

Vicky 3's navy and combat are simultaneously too finicky and hands off

Stellaris is good if you just roll back the latest update (needs some hot fixes)

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't there a new one coming soon?

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 14 hours ago

EU V was officially announced a few days ago. Still no release date.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago

I dunno which is best but the only one I've ever been able to get into is Stellaris because the others' starting states overwhelm me instantly.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

CK3 is pretty good for losing time. It’s definitely the easiest to just go with the flow. Most losses don’t feel game ending and can give you something to go after. I got a friend really into it even though he doesn’t seem to have any interest in the other games.

Vic 3 is alright once you figure out how to keep things stable enough while still ignoring the more complex systems.

HoI4 is a horrible broken mess. I’ve been playing it a lot recently.

I’ve never played EU4 so idk there.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Is it praxis to pick Germany in HoI4 and lose as fast as possible?

[–] edge@hexbear.net 7 points 20 hours ago

I think they added a communist path for Germany recently, but I haven’t played it yet.

[–] KnownUnknownKnower@hexbear.net 6 points 22 hours ago

If it is then I’m a damn activist

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

CK3 is really good and probs one of their most approachable. the khans of the steppe DLC just came out which looks great and they are adding china soon too. i think they've supported the game really well with DLC (price notwithstanding) and updates, it's in a nice mature state now and is super fun. i think the leaders and traits systems in CK3 make roleplaying really fun too. it's pretty RP centric with the variety of events and decisions in the game now especially with tours and tournaments which i like.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 4 points 21 hours ago

EU4 is in a pretty good place, all the DLC since Leviathan has been good, and Leviathan was patched into a pretty good state after a while.