They are also working with Eutelsat on IRIS^2^ as a more cybersecure replacement for Starlink, and made for governments, defence and critical infrastructure๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
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the second penguin is calling everyone out
It was such a devastating and absolute dick move by Trump.
NASA before: 50% of my budget is dedicated to science ed and public outreach. Also, by law of the USA, everything I do is instantly public domain.
ESA before: i keep all my data private forever, unless NASA forces me to publish it.
NASA now: shadow of private space corps.
ESA now: hey, look, I'm not SpaceX!
Edit: I want to know more about esa before i jump in the hype train.
new ESA merch shops opens in two days, 13/05.
I have a t-shirt and a baseball cap from them. The t-shirt with the embroidery logo is a little thin, the blank t-shirt comes from Stanley & Stella. The baseball cap is from Atlantis Headwear - I like that it has a QR code on the tag where it shows that particular baseball cap's supply chain.
So this post is an ad?
Edit: I didn't notice the community ๐
this entire sub is about informing ppl about buying local and buying European. welcome.
Hahaha, oups, I didn't notice the community... My bad!
Did anyone else read that in a jar jar Binks voice?
Now that you mention it, yeah ๐คฃ Thanks for the chuckles kind stranger, take my up vote
Same! Can we get a logo redesign, though? "eesa" always looks a bit weird and it's not helping that they made the "e"s look different from each other (and also remind me of the Internet Explorer ๐ฌ). Naso logo also screams SPACE (stars, orbiting comet) whereas eesa can be a logo for anything, really.
Truth that logo looks awful.
absolutely. makes me sad to see kids running around in NASA gear. i only buy ESA gear for my son.
Why? There's a bunch of cool people at Nasa and they've done a lot of cool things
I think people wear NASA gear in Europe because it's the western default - the same way they wear Converse and Nike. Wearing ESA merch sprinkles European identity where you're used to seeing an American pop culture import. It almost feels like a play on a fashion trope - "you're used to people wearing NASA, but ha it's ESA!"
Gestures broadly to the sub
Support and have pride in our homegrown efforts.
Ok but no one buys NASA. The work they've done has been of benefit to the world. Hell, the ESA exists because Europe decided no single European country could build a home grown NASA alone.
I promise you everyone at NASA would rather live in a world where the ESA exists. Let's not project the tribalism de jure being thrown around by the shit slingers onto organizations that are just as much victims of Fascism and enshittification as we are
supporting the ESA is not attacking NASA, no need to defend them.
There should be no need to defend them, yet there is.
there really isn't, but ok. better to go defend them from Trump and Musk.
There really is, and you named them. But you forgot about all their legions of anonymous followers who would disparage NASA at their behest to sow baseless discontent.
I would love to have an ESA jacket to go with my NASA one. I would never discourage a child from expressing interest in either organization, and I certainly would never engender tribalism in them by saying "ESA GOOD NASA BAD" or any inversion or variation thereof.
There's already so much of that, why add more?
Good thing no one here did any of that then.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing it remain so.