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Tesla Installs First V4 Superchargers In The US
(insideevs.com)
What's the charging speed of the V4 chargers?
V4 can do 1000V and on the cyber truck up to 1MW and 350kW@400V on a Tesla
Another ev advancement that diminishes the “but long charge times argument”
Anyone who complains about charging time needs to see a doctor to get their bowels checked. Marathoning a road trip with zero time allowed at all to use the bathroom can’t be healthy.
So what if I never have to stop for gas on my daily commute. The one time a year I need to drive 500 miles will take 45 minutes longer.
But I like having to go to price buddy to find gas that's 10 cents a gallon cheaper and drive 15 miles out of my way to save $3
Hah! The total amount of time saved is rarely factored in.
I maintain that very little extra time is taken when roadtripping since I'm not some maniac who's trying to shave 3 mins off of my arrival time on a 12hr drive.
I leave at 4am, stop around 5-6am for a coffee and snack, again at 8-9am for breakfast, 11a-1pm for a lunch, 3-4pm for a "oh god, my legs needs a fucking break" walk, and 5-7pm for dinner.
4 of 5 times the car is ready to go well before my food comes out or by time everyone is back in the car ready to go.
The cable reach of the current Tesla chargers is a blocker for many other EVs. Until v4 is rolled out more widely, it means most other EVs have to use the existing charger networks.
It's good to standardize on a single connector standard, but people have also been raising technical issues btw NACS and CCS1, especially in V2G / V2H / V2L scenarios.
It's not clear where we'll end up 10-yrs from now.
Worst case, an EV takes up 2 spots at a Tesla supercharger, but this might not be that big of a deal given how fast Tesla's plopping down charging stations (not stalls, but entire stations). From Jan 1 to today there have been 600 new stations (not stalls) and we're already starting to see V4 ones poke their head out. Assuming they keep the pace up, I don't think it'll take very long to have a sizable V4 network.
For comparison, in just 1 year Tesla will have almost built out a full Electrify America-worth of charging stations (not stalls) as EA's network only has 840 stations.
As far as V2(G/H/L) goes, AFAIK the implementations aren't cross compatible on CCS. The closest we got to a standard to this in the US was with CHAdeMO's native support for the tech. NACS doesn't bar a standard from being developed to handle this.
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2023
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