Friendly reminder that it’s very easy to sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians without glorifying terrorists.
For a similar example, I support the cause of a United Ireland but that doesn’t mean I support the IRA. Be better than that.
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
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~~There is no indication whatsoever that @SleeplessOne1917 is the same person as @cannotsleep420~~. Jesus, people, stop pissing yourselves for the literal 30 seconds it took to fact check this bullshit claim.
*edit: I took the liberty of finding the actual dev's account: /u/SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml. It took a whole additional minute. You're welcome
*edit 2: /u/NOT_RICK@lemmy.world has some links below that do indeed link /u/SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml to /u/CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml. Soooo, while I don't regret my nearly infinite capacity for skepticism, but it looks like this story has some legs. Hat tip to NOT_RICK, who is adamantly not Rick.
You might want to reinvestigate. @cannotsleep420 is the one that made those comments and they are a dev.
In the recent Lemmy developer update, there’s a reference to one Lemmy developer, SleeplessOne1917.
I found some horrifying comments from this user.
The post then lists comments from /u/cannotsleep420@lemmygrad.ml, however the text over the name is SleeplessOne (without the number on the end). This account is also on lemmygrad, the lemmy devs' main accounts are on lemmy.ml. Do you have anything to verify that they're the same person, or that they are another dev? Because I see no "CannotSleep420" mentioned on the github page. The main two are actually /u/dessalines@lemmy.ml and /u/nutomic@lemmy.ml.
Next you'll be telling me that Hollywood actress Margot Robbie also moderates round these parts.
You can look up my other comment for more examples, but this one is the most clear:
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/750810
They may not be the same person, although I suspect they are as the lemmy.ml account isn’t active, but either way 420 is at a minimum a contributor
They "contributed to the project", that doesn't mean they have any authority over lemmy development, as the top of the post is suggesting. "Contributing to the project" could mean just about anything.
While I wouldn't completely discount the possibility that they are the same person, this post provides no evidence of that. HOWEVER, this comment suggests they might well be!!
TBF the future lemmy developer isn’t too far off. I’ve been discussing being added to the NLNet grant along with another person, phiresky, with Dessalines and Nutomic.
@TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com you might be interested in that.
FYI, you can make an instance agnostic link just by typing /u/SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml.
Doesn't work for me. @SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml does though
What a creepy asshole. He should probbaly get back to /pol/, seems like he'd fit on there better.
Lemmygrad and hexbear serve as a propaganda wing of for people that make being communist their whole life. You can block certain feds to clear out your feed.
I wouldn't get riled up about it, they literaly say stuff to upset you so you react.
Lemmy.ml isn't much better.
The Internet is not safe, just got wade through the shit to make it to something good them make a path toward it by getting rid of the noise.
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You know, I came to lemmy because I was disgusted with the reddit admins and devs. And this shit just is not helping.
For the most part, Lemmy instances are separate from the developers. But the great thing about ActivityPub and the fediverse is that we can move platforms and keep the same content. Kbin can subscribe to the same communities that Lemmy can.
Yeah, this is one of the best parts of the fediverse. It's not just another plattform like Reddit. It's a bunch of Plattforms of various services, even Lemmy is just hundreds of small Reddits that connect to each other. Meaning we are not beholden to one person like on Reddit to participate in the fediverse.
Understand that the Lemmy devs do not have ultimate power over your instance, and that your instance admins may feel very differently to them
The difference here is that these people aren't really running the show. They're in charge of the main development branch, but that's just back end code, and it is (or should be) reviewed by every admin when they use it to implement their instance. Development can be adopted or forked by other people, should politics get in the way.
It's the morals of your own instance and its admin that are most important, these are the ones synonymous with reddit's staff. In fact, it's possible for the instance to put whatever code they want up. It can easily be non-standard to official lemmy, so you really are trusting them rather than the main lemmy devs.
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Anyone is able to contribute to the code. Are you saying we need background checks before contributions? Also as pointed out in another comment you didn’t prove any connection between the two usernames either.
What a special piece of shit he is.
Personally, I would accept a PR from a convicted murderer if the code was good. It would be a problem I would have to have meetings with this person but if he just submits code why would I care? There are no political opinions in code. It's not like code written by a rapist somehow pollutes my codebase.
Yeah the code might be fine. But if I want to support the development of Lemmy, say with a donation, am I financially supporting a piece of shit?
I'm not saying every contributor has to be thoroughly vetted, or that I have to agree politically with every contributor. It just feels icky, and I get the concern users have.
I donate to Lemmy.world but that doesn't go to this Lemmy dev in question, only Ruud and his team. You can donate to specific instance admins who aren't batshit crazy hateful scumbags and support the growth of healthy instances.
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This is difficult. I don't contribute code yet, but knowing that these kind of people might have a say in the development of Lemmy, I'm not sure I want to contribute. Maybe !pangora@programming.dev will be more welcoming... dunno.
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The Lemmy devs are tankies, they also deny chinese human rights violations and deny genocides.
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1st & 2nd of these are inside a post at news@hexbear.net (not lemmygrad.ml)
it has 490 upvotes, is locked & it is radically pro Palestine and anti Israel.
Not defending this user, just looking at the context.
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