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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Not all are easy to boycott

US products > GitHub, Steam (Valve), Dropbox, Oracle, nVidia, Intel, IBM, eBay, Amazon, UPS, FedEx, Pepsi, CocaCola, Microsoft, Google, Pfitzer, Nike......., Which of these support Trump and needs to be avoided because of this? Not even FOSS is a Guarantee. Gimp, GNU Project, Mozilla.org, TOR, even a lot of Linux distros are from the US

Full list of US companies https://fortune.com/ranking/fortune500/?global500_y_n=true

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

apart from foss content in which you can simply pick the source code and compile on your machine, or fork or reverse engineer them, in some cases you can either p!rate it outright (hello, ms and riaa!) or have already well established alternatives in your country (sodas, online commerce platform).

either way, you're not taking down the u.s. by claiming ethical consumption. there's no such thing under capitalism. the best thing you can do is organize and take down the system that enables big companies that own us.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, FOSS can be forked and gut the code, if you know how to do it. With big apps with millons of lines it is not so easy, less for an normal user, apart to the subsequent maintenance and updates.

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[–] tatann@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of these are easy to boycott

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You forgot AMD there. Intel alone would be super easy to avoid. But AMD is also based in the US. You kinda need either AMD or Intel if you want to own a useful computer. Or there's Apple Silicon, but that's still American. Qualcomm laptop offerings are not that great yet and guess what, it's also an American company.

This is all a lot harder to boycott than Coca Cola, Nike, etc. I can just buy local soft drinks and Adidas shoes. In fact I currently own Adidas shoes (I'm the kinda guy who buys one pair of shoes, wears the everloving fuck out of them, then buys another pair and the old pair gets used in the garage afterwards) and my clothes already come from European owned brands (that are probably made in Bangladesh or something, I don't buy a lot of expensive clothes). UPS and FedEx aren't hard to avoid either. Most of my shit gets delivered via Omniva, DHL or Itella.

The x86-64 CPU monopoly that the US has might honestly be the hardest American thing to avoid. The cloud monopoly is even bigger and we all tend to interact with it in one way or another, but most of us could host our own shit on Hetzner or OVH if needed, so at least no need to directly give them money.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The CPU monopoly can change, until now there are only Russian and Chinese alternatives to nVidia and AMD, but also the EU is on the march with Rhea. We'll see.

But yes, currently there are no real alternatives yet, ....well https://techtelegraph.co.uk/open-source-alternative-to-x86-and-arm-could-take-off-in-2025/

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[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

lidl cola is best

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Buy alternatives for whatever is easy to avoid. Buy what is unavoidable.

[–] afronaut@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Does this mean Europeans will also boycott goods that they steal from the 17 countries they still have colonized?

No? Oh.

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, good ole whataboutism.

[–] afronaut@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s not whataboutism when my entire ideology is anti-nationalism. You don’t get it, do you? I want all of the Western imperialist nations to collapse, including the European ones.

Your rhetoric is weak and outdated, still viewing the world through borders. You think Musk gives a fuck about borders? Grow up.

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[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

3 of these 17 territories are colonies of the USA (American Samoa, Guam, Virgin Islands).

When it comes to Europe the extortion of former colonies might be the bigger problem (the Franc Zone or the ongoing exploitation of African ressources).

[–] afronaut@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Right. But, I’m an American who strives to boycott goods produced by slave labor and/or colonization by my own government because I believe class solidarity transcends borders.

The BuyEuropean movement is largely nationalistic and uninterested in class solidarity. Don’t get me wrong, I think the entire world should be boycotting American goods. Let the empire collapse, please.

But, boycotting American goods while still exploiting the Global South for centuries is not a flex.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You will never convince a majority of Western people of boycotting anything for a moral reason.

They boycott America because they finally feel threatened. Just take the W and let them boycott America.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You will never convince a majority of Western people of boycotting anything for a moral reason.

And they will probably stop boycotting when the America fascist-meter drop from 100% to the normal 88%

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That is very likely. But the American economy is feeble right now. Trump picked a bad timing to go on a tirade.

American Evangelicals and Zionists are bankrolling European far right parties as well. Europe cutting off America is better for the whole world.

[–] afronaut@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

You right lol

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[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

why not both?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ve noticed a significant drop in people using the phrase “America bad” as a mocking jibe, since it no longer really works as a hyperbolic statement.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

It's too easy to reply "it is" at this point for sure.

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

"Fuck America" is more common these days.

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[–] Itzdan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Test great success!

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sir and/or Ma'am I have done nothing to you to warrent this level of hatred. Other than make fun of your outs and abouts and sorries. And the Maple Leafs. Go Bruins.

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Fuck the Maple Leafs alright

[–] tiguwang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Soooo, when will all this anti-US consumerist movement result in those Levis 501 jeans I've been eyeing dropping in price?

I'm hoping for the perfect intersection of price drop and waistline drop.

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