The behind the bastards episode will teach you a lot about this piece of shit. Wozniak is the genius, this is just another predatory businessman. Good riddance.
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Yknow, while I 90% agree with you there seems to be some element between the technical genius (Wozniak) and the idiot businessman that is Tim Apple.
Jobs may have been a piece of shit but there’s something to be said for the uncompromising non-technical focus on UX that allowed Jobs to make the iPhone a success.
Sure Wozniak invented the Apple I and II. But if he never met Jobs his inventions would have stayed a hobby and Apple would have never existed. Woz also didn’t push for an OS with a GUI (which was revolutionary back then) that was Jobs’ idea. Not to mention that Woz had nothing to do with Apple’s comeback. He has been an honorary employee since Jobs was fired. Woz is a genius but people give him way too much credit just like they do with Jobs.
"Invent" is the wrong term, it's "design".
a new idea is an invention, the implementation is a design.
Jobs had no ideas. GUI, like everything else, was stolen from someone else. Apple and Microsoft both got big by stealing ideas.
Is it really stealing if you pay for it?
Xerox PARC had lots of great ideas, and then just never really commercialized any of them.
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Wow, they made 4 episodes about him, each over an hour long.
Haven't listened to Behind The Bastards but will give this one a listen.
Oh boy, welcome to the Bastards club. Brought to you by Raytheon and Blue Apron.
If you like that they're all pretty solid, but I recommend you check out the MKULTRA episodes. I thought I knew about it, I didn't know the half of it. I didn't even know about the one way mirror masturbatorium.
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Imagine how insufferable he would be today.
Couldn't be worse than Muskrat.
I shudder thinking about the bullshit these two would spill being together on Joe Rogan.
And then one time I made my workers sit in a room with me when I hadn't showered for 3 months!
That's nothing, one time I forced my employees back to work in the middle of a pandemic and the government of California was so busy covering up it's own crimes and pro-slavery views that they didn't do shit.
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Thought Apples would save him back.
It's unfortunate because his leadership / sense of taste is what made Apple a powerhouse. Under Tim Apple, the software has languished. They're great at hardware and the software is far from great. What a shame.
Eh, I feel like Jobs was in charge when he could create new products.
Outside of a different Apple Watch launch, I don't see Jobs really having the ability to create new innovative products.
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I never like to let people forget the raw fruit diet comes from a cult that believes people from Venus told us that's the key to eternal life
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I'd be far more interested in learning more about the other folks on the Macintosh team. They're an amazing group of people who put a lot of care into something they believed in, Steve Jobs notwithstanding. What they did with what they had was amazing, and the fact that they got lost in Jobs' spotlight is tragic.
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Destroyed computer-aided collaboration.
https://www.quora.com/Who-invented-the-modern-computer-look-and-feel/answer/Harri-K-Hiltunen
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