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European alternatives to non-European apps (2.0) (lemmy.ca)
submitted 4 months ago by buyeuropean@lemmy.ca to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)

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[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wish there would be some good european LLMs for agentic coding..

[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

i found codestral. not as good as claude of course but it might become a viable alternative

[โ€“] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Took this post as motivation to try some out.

Here WeGo: actually pretty intuitive! Better than OSMand and Organic Maps in terms of Car Navigation (actual Voice and not TTS Voice from android) and 3D sounds that you have to get used to but coule make listening to instrucrions in stressfull sitations easier. Also optional: speeding warning ring sound and shield head up-sound effects (yield, stop, train crossing, etc.) Each with a special sound so you might get better prepared for the next yield or stop sign since your NAV app told ya already that one is coming up soon.

Deezer: Well some usability things annoy me. Also some problems with the android tv client...

Bit the flow mode (random shuffle in genres or moods (happy, party, chill...) that also has a toggle if you want the shuffle be based of songs you have in your playlists/liked already or if you want to go on a jurney to find new songs.

Pretty geat so far!

Qwant: well the search results hit good. Dark theme is a lil worse than DDG's dark theme but thats just preference. Some !bang searches are not available though. DDG has many more listed than Qwant. But we're getting there!

[โ€“] mrhenry77@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Since I canceled Claude and ChatGPT I'm really enjoying https://chat.mistral.ai/ It might be a few months behind quality wise, but it is really fast, which is great for quick searches and brainstorming. It even has a canvas feature now.

[โ€“] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Aren't almost all of these quite terrible?

[โ€“] count_duckula@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

DeepL is better than Google Translate for the languages it supports. I find that it captures the context better when words have multiple meanings. Some features are paid, for example, translating a text to an informal context (Sie vs du in German).

It does not support as many languages as Google, though. Most European languages are supported.

Between DeepL and Wiktionary, I find I don't even need Google Translate anymore.

[โ€“] faultybit@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder why you think so. Some like Peertube & Threema are definitely poor alternatives but I wouldn't say it's "almost all" either.

  • Deezer vs Apple Music/Tidal: Deezer has a great selection of music and recommendation algorithm. I've never used Tidal but Deezer is definitely better than Apple Music IMO.
  • Tuta/Mailbox.org/Posteo vs Gmail: Well, they all let you send and receive emails. Unless you're an enterprise user, I don't see what advantage Gmail would have over the others.
  • HERE WeGo vs Google Maps: Very recently installed HERE and didn't have any issues so far. This can be a bit location-dependent though.
  • Ecosia vs Google: Ecosia uses Bing/Google^1^ as its search index anyway, so the results are almost exactly the same for me.
  • DeepL Translate vs Google Translate: DeepL has a more limited selection of languages but for the languages it supports, it's the undisputed king.
  • Bolt vs Uber: I only used Bolt a few times while I was in Portugal and it seemed fine. Maybe this is also location-dependent.

^1^I think it's Bing by default but you can configure it to use Google in the settings.

[โ€“] nostradamnit@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

Aren't many of the mainstream offers terrible as well, in their own special way?

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