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[–] pound_heap@lemm.ee -3 points 6 days ago

The title of this is a misleading simplification. $4.5 tn is not "Tax Giveaway to the Rich". It's a maximum cap on total tax cuts that could be in this budget. It is likely to include renewal of 2017 income tax cuts and increased child tax credit - both of these were popular and not just "for rich".

They may also raise SALT cap which benefits higher income people from states with high property taxes. Living in one myself, I can tell you that you don't need a mansion in a top school district to pay much more than $10k in property taxes. So this one is not just for billionaires for sure, but maybe from upper middle class.

There are promises Trump made to eliminate income taxes on tips and social security, which are obviously not beneficial only to rich. But I heard it would cost a lot, especially SS one. Not sure if $4.5tn is enough.

Unfortunately, it looks like proposed spending cuts to Medicaid and food stamps are favored by GOP and may be easy to pass, but they don't cover tax cuts by a big margin. So they can hurt people in need, and still have to balloon national debt even more.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 143 points 1 week ago (37 children)

MAGA will blame this on Democrats.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well, he promised tax breaks. If anyone had the illusion that this would benefit lower income brackets, then congratulations: you have officially become senile. Because it follows the same path he did with the last tax breaks: More money for the rich, less for the rest.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Everyone has equal freedom to be rich, so these tax breaks actually benefit everyone while food stamps only benefit the true leeches of society! /s

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (9 children)

This infuriates me more than anything else, but the Republicans were very clear on their intentions and were elected democratically.

It sucks that we don't have a legit opposition party that actually cares about the poor and working class.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

During the campaign Trump repeatedly said he wouldn't mess with Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. Towards the end of the campaign he stopped saying Medicaid. But just last week he was asked about cuts and said he wouldn't touch Medicaid.

I guess it's all true because Congress is going to cut all three.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

A bunch of trump admin people wrote project 2025 with the heritage foundation. Trump himself is a well known liar and was under criminal prosecution.

We knew it would be tax cuts for the richest, again. At this point its still surprising that people are dumb enough to believe his words over his actions..

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The amount of people I know that said they were voting Trump for "economic reasons" is far too high.

I know they make less money than I do, so they're definitely not the ones benefitting from Trumps economic plans. The absolute buffoons.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

America will get what they voted for. Fucked.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have no sympathy for anyone who ever voted Trump, but the point has to be made that until voting is mandatory and they actually hold genuine primaries that allow voters to have a say, it's taking things too far to blame every American for this outcome. The last few presidential elections have been laughably thin pretenses of democracy.

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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I didn't vote for this everyone needs to stop putting us in a box...many of us did not want this and we're stuck with these jerks. Alot of Americans are good people we just got taken over. America needs help from other countries.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I'm an American who works primarily with Canadians. Their opinions are very eye opening.

The nuance you're missing is based in American exceptionalism. You are no different than a Russian citizen, stuck under a government you/I hate. Focus on what you and your family can control.

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[–] AllPintsNorth@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago

Who could have possibly foreseen this hilariously predictable outcome?!

[–] Bublboi@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America had a class war. And Americans lost.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck did people think would happen to all the cost savings that doge is supposedly doing? You think that money was just going to sit in government bank accounts or something?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Some, forget which other than Meidas Touch, said that was exactly what the "cuts" were going to do, pay for Trumps tax breaks

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

"Well the 60yr old man that blew his body out working hard jobs to raise his family that are now unable to buy homes despite graduating college with tech degrees, can just rejoin the work force with his withering body and broken psyche." -Evil probably

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Everyday Americans will not stand for these games

I got a bridge to sell this guy!

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today -2 points 6 days ago

Ha, exactly, they explicitly voted for it! Fuck them, I wish maximum pain inflicted on every single asshole that voted for this.

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[–] raskolnikov@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

American friends, what are you waiting for to deploy your guillotines?

Sure we are getting fucked all over the world but it seems that you are having it way worse...

[–] Xella@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

We're too poor and too far away from the capitol. It would take days for me to drive to Washington D.C. and if I miss that much work I'll lose my home and other things. Then nothing will change and I'll be homeless for a while :(

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The US is still rich and prosperous by any standard and isn't doing "way worse". It is regressing by developed countries' standard, but most of the world is still developing.

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[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry can’t afford a guillotine, too preoccupied with trying to get enough overtime to afford basic necessities to be starting a revolution nobody else will show up for 🤷‍♀️

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[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

That’s $4.5 trillion that will trickle down to all of us, any day now, just you wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait…

[–] onecarmel@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah yes, republicans with the ol’ trickle-down economics… always works, right?! Right?!

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

100% of the time it works exactly as it's supposed to. Incidentally it's never been accurately advertised.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

‘Want to be slightly richer, while we speed run a revolution?’

[–] the_q@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

There will be no revolution.

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[–] kahdbrixk@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

I don't know what to think about that. I don't think that low income Republican voters will feel the face eating of the leopards they voted for as what it is.

And I'm not even American, but I can see that this exact same thing is going to happen here in Europe/Germany as well. People will vote for the extreme right parties that have all their propaganda on how they are going to give money to the small people and make the country more secure - and at the same time their political programs and past behavior screams "we will give tax cuts mainly to the ultra rich and never cared about the low income people".

And they still get voted for. We just love us some good old fashioned fascism. Maybe I need to change my mindset and just be like "let's gooooo"

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[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Time to fuckin do something

First thing im going to do is block everyone pointing blame. Ive drawn my own conclusions already and if you still haven't made up your mind on it, I don't want you clogging up my feed.

I use to have a solid plan and that didn't work. There will be other opportunities. We will make them.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Know how we can directly trace the enshitification of the United States in many ways back to the Reagan administration?

Yeah, we just did that to ourselves again. But probably worse.

Realistically, we're going to spend the remainder of our lives witnessing the further enshitification of this nation.

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