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House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration's authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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[–] anonymous_in_atl@ani.social 33 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If they're so pissed about it, the progressives should just pack up and form a new party or join the WFP

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (27 children)

Yeah it's a clever lie that's perpetuated that says progressives have no where to go if they try to break from the Democrats. But secretly a more progressive platform would actually draw over a lot of disaffected libertarians and lite conservatives who only vote conservative because they've been convinced that they should only vote in opposition to Democrats instead of in favor of anything.

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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

haven't you heard?

everyone and everything that isn't the democrats is russian psy ops...

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

No no, it's the Chinese this week. +10 sosjal credits Xi bucks for your comment commmie!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

everyone and everything that isn't the democrats is russian psy ops...

Everyone and everything to the left of Netanyahu's wing of the Democratic Party.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I am only donating to AOC until she and her fellow progressives gain a larger voice in the direction of the party. I've unsubbed from a lot of Democratic lists, too.

I advise all to do the same (as she can allocate these money to elsewhere if she wishes), while also contacting the DNC at https://democrats.org/

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[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So they are silently just watching when Murica burns to the ground.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They did rally themselves last month to push hard for tougher laws going against illegal video streaming websites. Netflix or someone in the entertainment industry cut them a check, I imagine.

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[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 257 points 3 days ago (36 children)

"Forcing recorded votes is possible. Frequent quorum calls are possible. A wide variety of dilatory motions are possible. In short, harassing the majority is possible. If they think it's a bad idea, say so. If they say it's not possible, they're lying."

I like how politicians voting is considered a time out. It's their job, jfc.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"But if our votes are recorded, our ~~voters~~ corporate donors will know we voted against them!"

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 135 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The US needs a left-wing Party.

This has been half a century of Fascists vs neoliberals, center-right "free to be LGBTQ as you die of poverty in the gutter" vs so far right we're building Concentration camps.

Unfortunately our people have been poorly educated by design as well as brainwashed into believing profit comes before humanity. " Herp derp Anything less is socialism and therefore evil!"

This is only "freedom" for the rich to trample the poor. Freedom without social responsibility is a rampage. We need revolution, revolution that does far more to Wall Street than merely occupy it , or we need to accept living in hell until the capitalists destroy the climate enough to destroy civilization all together.

Don't worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we're failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

This isnt the usual ebbs and flows of history, There is a very literal deadline of humanity's own greedy making.

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[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 140 points 2 days ago (34 children)

Progressives need to start their own party. The establishment DNC is so entrenched with big donors and lobbyists that it is unable to serve the people. Their balancing act of appeasing both the right and the left is just serving to alienate everyone because the final policies get so diluted. They have become too stuck in the quagmire of their own doing. I don’t see the DNC being able to change any time soon and through their inaction, will only enable more devastation of the country.

The new Progressive party should align with the DNC as the opposition during this administration but simultaneously run more like minded candidates in the next elections with their own separate fundraising campaigns. That’s the only hope I have for meaningful change to happen.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 187 points 3 days ago (7 children)
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[–] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] onecarmel@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah I have completely lost faith in the Democratic Party. Seems like they don’t mind Trump because he benefits their wallet.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Luckily, if the world survives Trump the Democrats won't matter anymore because America won't matter. The rest of the world was pretty pissed off at the USA before, but still allowed America to keep its leverage because challenging it would be too much effort. Trump, however, is actively destroying that leverage through his trade wars and his cancelling of foreign aid at the same time that he's stripping his own government of its ability to function through his purges.

The only pillar of American influence that Trump isn't destroying directly is the country's media exports, and they were already in the process of collapsing before Trump was re-elected.

You got your high position in the world in the first place due to the fact that you were the only major power left standing after the world wars. Those circumstances won't happen again (well, world wars might, but not ones that leave the USA unscathed.)

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago

and his cancelling of foreign aid at the same time

I don't think Trump nor President Musk understand how much power the US weilds, just purely on foreign aid. By gutting all of it, we removed a large portion of the US's foreign power (Which, IMO, is a pretty good result).

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The US has been going all-in on hard power while soft power declines. There's a lot of rich individuals who benefit from military contracts but don't care as much about actually maintaining the empire. The big risk is that Americans are going to recognize this disparity and start WWIII in an effort to leverage the one area that the US has an advantage to retain hegemony.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure they've already ran the numbers and realized getting power to exploit the people from winning is far less likely than getting it from switching sides.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I could swear this shit is like the plot from The Producers. They've monetized their incompetence and realized that they can make more money from losing elections than from winning. They collect billions in donations from desperate people and then launder it, squandering it on ineffectual "vote blue" spam while awarding lucrative no bid consultancy contracts with friendly party aristocracy insiders for massive kick backs and "speaking fees".

Kamala "I'm Speaking" Harris never intended to do anything OTHER than speaking. Seems the democrat establishment doesn't want any of us remembering that TALK IS CHEAP.

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