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    I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

    Hmm that's a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out

    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

    Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

    [–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Sqlite is the best in most cases

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

    Made a bash script using sqlite recently to automate processing some data. Best part is it terrifies everyone else at work and no one else wants to touch it because it's on Linux and none of them have used it before.

    [–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

    Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)
    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    @mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

    The way it's supposed to be!

    I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

    @linuxmemes

    [–] lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

    Oh, that's really cool. I hope there's more linkage between the twitter-like and reddit-like islands of the fediverse in the future; I'm somewhat interested in reading the former but it seems to be complicated to actually get federation with it.

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

    wow, that's simple! Thx!

    [–] vint@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    @drq @mogoh

    Do you mean just mentioning the group anywhere in the post finally works? Before, I had to mention it on first line. That's some progress.

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    [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago

    Federation.

    Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

    @mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
    @drq

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    @30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

    I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

    @linuxmemes

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    [–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    everything is a file including a filesystem*

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    * including databases

    [–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 33 points 1 week ago

    git repo is blockchain

    [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

    Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

    [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

    *starts rocking back and forth in chair

    [–] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    or CSV files

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

    [–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

    As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    the anus isnt self lubricating :(

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago

    It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

    Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

    It is though...

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

    Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

    You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    [–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    And files are streams. 🎡 Islands in the stream. 🎡

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

    🎡 That is what we awk 🎡

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    They’re more like blob storage.

    Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

    That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    welcome to lemmy im new also

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 8 points 1 week ago
    [–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

    Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

    [–] Redacted@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

    The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.

    [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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    [–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    And the worst FAT32

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