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I've been trying to find a good privacy respecting browser, but I can't really decide on what to use. I don't like the search results with Brave Search. DuckDuckGo shares my information with Microsoft and SearchXNG shows me NSFW images even with strict search on. I really like Presearch, but I'm not really sure what they're about.

EDIT: After tinkering with the settings of my SearXNG instance, it seems to have reduced the amount of NSFW images. I think I will stick with SearXNG for now.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago

It seemed extremely sketchy to me, most results were from other engines and it was embracing some weird crypto.

[–] CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash 3 points 1 week ago

Not sure about the privacy of Presearch but their results are really good. A few times already I was searching for something I know existed out there and only Presearch was able to find it.

[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

You can combine search engine of choice with anonymity provided by TOR browser.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does DDG share with Microsoft?

[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's probably not that big of a deal, but I just don't want anything to do with Microsoft.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I trust a search engine if I can turn JS off and still get results.

I just use Duckduckgo Lite with Ublock Origin, NoScript, LocalCDN, Libredirect, and Chameleon extensions on hardened Firefox fork.

A self hosted Searxng would also be a good option though.

[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like DDG lite a lot, but I need to be able to search for images :c

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

You can still use lite and then use bangs. !ddgi myimagesearch will immediately redirect you to ddg images. Duckduckgo has a plethora of useful quick search shortcuts called Bangs. Even if you don't use lite, bangs are worth looking into inho.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So they only share when you click on an ad. I use an adblocker anyway, so effectively they're not sharing anything. Or do I misunderstand?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it’s more of a trust issue.

Exactly. It's sorta like all or nothing. If they share this, go figure what else. And maybe you misunderstood or missed some other parts.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can you make SearXNG work without problems? I've tried only one instance (not enough time) but searching for the game "Borderlands 2" (so nothing unknown) it randomly gives me

Sorry!

No results were found. You can try to:

  • Refresh the page.
  • Search for another query or select another category (above).
  • Change the search engine used in the preferences: /preferences
  • Switch to another instance: https://searx.space/
[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I use these instances: https://search.inetol.net/ https://search.hbubli.cc/ It's working great so far. The only issue im having is that it pulls Chinese results every once in a while.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was doing that for me so often that it became unusable for me.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

You can just tell it not to search Chinese engines.

[–] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The best is to self host your own SearXNG metasearch engine.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does that not defeat the point, because then they can see that the searches are coming from your location/internet?

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can host if on a vps, use it behind a vpn, or make a whole group of people using it so you don't know from who these requests were

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The vpn, sure, but if you host it on a vps (and don't make it public) then all of the requests are coming from the vps's ip. This is private, but not anonymous.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I have started using a public instance because of this.

[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Have you considered StartPage ?

It returns google results whilst stripping of all google tracking and does not track itself either.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's some concern now that Startpage is majority owned by an ad company. The company says they want the ad revenue rather than the user data, but it's hard to trust that. I used to use it but moved to Searxng.

[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

I tried Searxng but it just wasnt giving good results at all. And lacked far too many features of a modern search engine imo.

The thing is you kinda have to trust the word of all companies with how they collect your data and how they monetise themselves. I still think startpage is one of the best alternatives for privacy. Also my adblockers seem to work fine on startpage's ad links so i dont see them.

[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Startpage seems like a pretty good alternative. I read their privacy policy and it looks pretty solid.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

whoogle is also similar

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can only say good things about kagi. They let you adjust your search results according to how much you trust a given source, and the business model makes sense. You pay them, they give you a service. Heck, if you pay for unlimited searches, they have an actual incentive to make you search less and make you find results quickly

[–] dudenas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago
[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Another $10 subscription just to browse the web.. I don't think it's for me.

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You pay with money or privacy, but pay you must. 😉

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago

If you pay for privacy, other than a vpn provider, you are a victim already

[–] TuxEnthusiast@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

SearXNG seems to be free and private, checkmate!