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[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago

Closed source goals are profit. Open source goals are to solve a problem.

[-] elFlexor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Open source goals are to solve a problem.

To solve a problem. Again. In Rust!

/s

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Rust is neat, people like playing with neat things

[-] infinitevalence@discuss.online 66 points 1 year ago

I like this much more than the Linux becomes Marxism meme.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 46 points 1 year ago

Similar vibe, but I think 'marxism' is not the only conclusion from realising how much megacorps control our world. I'm more of a left-anarchist myself :U

[-] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

As a leftist/liberal who doesn’t know too much about polsci, how would anarchism function on a grand scale? Genuine curiosity.

[-] bear@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago

Anarchism is less a system of functions to be implemented, and more of a governing philosophy on how we build other systems. That philosophy focuses heavily on the expansion of democracy and the elimination of hierarchy wherever possible in order to create the most total freedom in the system. It is not inherently opposed to the concepts of governance or laws as many believe. It usually means focusing on smaller governing units, preferring local governance wherever possible, to give people the most direct control over their own lives. Self-sufficient communities are a major goal here.

The meaning of freedom to an anarchist is wholistic; not just freedom to, but also freedom from. Freedom to pursue your life on your terms, freedom from any obligation or inhibition that would prevent or detract from that goal. This includes, for example, unconditional freedom for all people from starvation, homelessness, or the inability to access medical care. It is an intentionally utopian ideal, that we should strive for something that may not even be possible, because that is how we'll create the best possible world.

Once upon a time, anarchism was effectively synonymous with libertarianism. That word was bastardized in America to the point that it is unrecognizable now.

[-] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

Well. That’s a wholly different picture than the word itself paints.

It’s almost sad, as anarchist has such a negative connotation that, to me, it feels what you’re describing may deserve a new name to relieve it of the baggage associated with the name. It will be awfully hard to get people to listen in America when it’s so saturated with the idea that anarchism is, well… anarchic, ungoverned chaos.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The broader tradition of political thought that anarchism falls under is libertarianism. That one also doesn't have great connotations for obvious reasons, unfortunately. If you're interested in learning more about anarchism ;Zoe Baker, Anark, Andrewism are great YouTube channels with very comprehensive videos on history, theory, and praxis. Be warned, Zoe bakers delivery is dryer than a saltine and anark is very theory focused and many of his videos are 90 min+

Zoe Baker is a PhD in anarchist history. Anark has several videos on revolutionary politics and theory. His most recent series is a synthesis of many strains of anarchism to form a modern iteration of anarchism. Kind of "bringing it all together". Andrewism is focused on black anarchism, pan-africanism, degrowth, solar punk and a lot of other praxis, lifestyle, and activism. Between the three of them I doubt there's a question on anarchism and liberatory politics that couldn't be answered

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

But can someone explain to me why these free computer programs are the best built, most functional, money saving, quality of life improving programs I’ve ever used? Leaving dark patterns behind has my quality of life so much better.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 28 points 1 year ago

Turns out pure profit incentive only goes so far in incentivising "quality products and services", and after a while it becomes literally mandatory to be an asshole in order to continue following the profit.

Even paid Libre projects (of which there are a couple) tend to be less dickish than their blackbox cousins, after all, if they were chasing maximum profit and infinite growth, they wouldn't be a libre project now would they?

[-] puppy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Corporations have the need to continuously add features in order to keep selling their product. So the outcome is more often than not, buggy and resource hungry software. In contrast FOSS doesn't have the need to add features for the sake of it, so only the genuinely useful features are implemented, usually.

[-] snowraven@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Most of these are created and maintained by people who are just like you and me and care about freedom and privacy. I think open source projects really reflects the "humanity" aspect of human civilization, it sounds a bit odd, but when you think about it, there is very less incentive for normal people to contribute to the open source. It is the frustration from dark patterns that give people some motivation to support and contribute to open source. This is atleast how I see it and why I so strongly support the FOSS cause, other people may view it differently but to me it reflects on humanity.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Because they are Free!(as in freedom)

Freedom 3 gives users who use the program to improve it and give it back to the community

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

I'm trying to remember what my gateway drug into FOSS was. VLC is a strong contender, but it might've been OpenOffice for me

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 26 points 1 year ago

Mine was Inkscape, back in the early days of the MLP fandom, when I learned I could make show-accurate art using this entirely free computer program. Which lead to using it to make like, memes and shitposts and stuff for fandom shit.

Like I'd used free software before -- But seeing Inkscape in action and then, a year later, getting into college for design-related stuff and learning that people used Adobe Illustrator (which costs a fortune) for the same things was my 'oh cool, my free thing can do most if not all the stuff this expensive tool can'

From then on there was no going back.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

'Twas GIMP for me. I use it all the time for work (not graphical design, just basic business engineering stuff like annotating photos for figures in documents and such). The companies are too stingy for Photoshop for a person in my position and I refuse to turn in janky MS Paint markups.

One company IT tech that I requested an install for GIMP on the computer said that I was the only one using it in the entire company (5000 people). I was like, what, how do you all annotate figures and whatnot. Just a shrug in response, leading me to think it's MS Paint.

[-] nottheengineer@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Mine was Windows. It became so bad I decided to say "fuck it, linux might be hard but anything is better than this bullshit".

Now I know that windows isn't just a bad implementation of an OS, it's fundamentally a bad concept. If you can even call that mess a concept.

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

mine started with valve. just hearing about them making contributions to stuff like wine or proton for free at first, then getting my hands on a steam deck and being introduced to Linux for the first time, and it was all downhill from there

[-] macallik@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Redirector did it for me. The I found out about libredirect and started using alternative front ends for everything. from there I switched over to Linux and that's all she wrote

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I was lucky because my dad has always been a linux user so I've been using open source software since my first computer. I'm now in college for computer science and I don't think I would be if I hadn't been exposed to so much good open source software

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mine was taking up software development as a kid. "I made a cool program that solves a particular problem I'm having. I wonder if others might also want it." Not much later I discovered the concept of FOSS.

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

For me it was because I had a super old computer, and Windows refused to run smoothly on it. So I installed Xubuntu, and it ran better than most computers ran on Windows.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I was gonna say Evil Player for me, but looking back, it was free but not opensource. So probably Firefox, then Ubuntu for me.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

VLC almost did it for me until I found XBMC (now named Kodi). Which wasn't as stable as VLC but had better features and was multiplatform too so from there I decided to give Linux a try after windows borked my pc since i only wanted xbmc hooked up to a tv.

[-] Ketchup@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

It’s crazy to me that at this point. I feel like purchasing an app for $79.00 for a lifetime license feels emotionally like a FOSS. It’s “free after a one time fee” - that marketing could practically work on me at this point. But since lifetime licenses are disappearing left and right, FOSS is the only future for continued development

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago

To be honest.

Samesies.

I was happy to buy (the very proprietary, very commercial) Magix Vegas. Why?

Because gasp. It had an option where I paid them money and I just. Had the application. No yearly subscription, no log in every time I turn on the programme.

Just. A one-time activation. Holy shit. I use it for my work and woooooowww.

Even though it can't use my AMD GPU properly.

[-] aracebo@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago

And just not honored

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[-] visor841@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah actually I feel like it goes the other way quite a bit as well

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'll always upvote me some Jeremy Bentham references.

[-] nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

literally what i went through as well

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel attacked :D

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