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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I still don't believe the TEMU bit though

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I like how one person said they don't use child labour because they are inefficient. If they were efficient though ...

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Misinformation

Truths you find inconvenient are not misinformation, reporter.

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[–] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (44 children)

I didn't think child labor still existed in China, just harsh labor conditions and low pay.

China's government's strict control of the media did, however, lead to me not questioning the social credit score thing.

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[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Well tbf, even though it's strictly banned in China there are still some cases of it happening in rural areas.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 34 points 1 week ago

I just want to point out that the attempt to compare medical costs in a direct comparison in US dollars isn't exactly easy as it does ignore purchasing power and base wages.

The point would probably be better made with hours of labor at a base pay to pay off treatment which I do think American healthcare would probably still lose quite handedly.

[–] Kiwiprole@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago

The unexpected propaganda win for the PRC too lol. Anyone who might have been doubting the benefits of the dictatorship of the proletariat will now have first hand evidence that life is absolutely not better in capitalism

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Remember that "Grapes of Wrath" completely backfired as a propaganda piece because Russians were amazed that poor Americans could still afford cars

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is exactly what governments around the world are afraid of. Every government wants us to blindly accept that every citizen of the nation is profoundly evil and must be obedient to its government.

Russia wants its citizens to believe every single lie about itself and other nations. That everyone in Ukraine is a bloodthirsty Nazi, and Russia is liberating Crimea.

America wants its citizens to believe every single lie about itself and other nations. Every brown person is a terrorist waiting for its Manchurian candidate call sign to do a second 9/11, and that the economy is the greatest in the world.

No nation tells the entire truth, from lying from omission via national security, to straight up war time propaganda, to funding and owning news networks. From Radio Free Europe to Sputnik, a government will lie to your face and tell you its an unabridged raw truth.

The only way we could actually learn the "truth" (if there is such a one when anyone could be as brainwashed as their government wants them to be) is by directly talking to the citizens of each nation. The internet is a great equalizer, the only limit is language and translation. That's why governments censor the internet, or even shut it down when it gets too much for a government to manage.

We all have more in common with the random citizens of China, Russia, Germany, Japan, South Korea, America, Mexico, Canada, Uganda, South Africa, Egypt, Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, Brazil... We have more in common with being human and being subjugated and redistricted in doing what makes us happy and free.

And the government and rich of each of those nations and beyond have more in common each other than to the citizens they try to control like dogs. They all disagree on why they do it, but the end result is the same. Status quo, monopoly on violence kept in place with whoever is at the top. The set dressing and costumes change, but the stage play goes on.

You and I have more in common than with the president or prime minister or dictator we are under. The only thing we share with the top 1% and our governments is the lanauge we share and the citizenship. I have friends around the world, and I have more in common with random geeks in Japan and China, than the leadership of my nation.

The governments want you to think that you have nothing to share and love with another human being outside the lines drawn in the sand by people out of touch with the people inside those lines.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Not everything! For instance, we don't wear shoes to bed.

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