Just 2 things are pushing me away from it
Reminder that the Hyprland community is full of racist and anti lgbt fucks and no one should support them
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Give it a rest.
Interesting, do you only use software from "good people"? Like X (twitter), Brave Browser and oh, obviously Lemmy itself?
I mean, I use hyprland because it's f*cking awesome, I never heard about how bad their devs are, I only check these stuff if I consider to "donate a coffee" for the devs. And I never tossed a coin for hyprland.
Why shouldn't I use it?
he never said you shouldn't use it, just that you shouldn't support them
using it isn't supporting them.
I have bad news about stallman and well, everything derived from his work therefore
It’s free an open source, It’s not really supporting the community by using it
It's not like I don't believe you, but would you mind providing some sources? It's outside my bubble I guess, I was only able to find some vaxry drama.
https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html
And before you dismiss this as Drew's rambling, I would trust him any day than any of the hyprland devs.
I mean, sure its a problem, but it seems to be largely just about the one occurance of the problem.
Otherwise it seems like the bulk of the post and vaxrys response to that post are about how it was handled and idk if I would have handled it better if I was in that sort of situation.
When I went into the community briefly both on github and discord I was met with immense help to my problems with hyprland (which I now don't use just because I realized I didn't need to mess with window management)
If I recall vaxry is young and has some social nuance to learn, this doesn't excuse behaviors but I can choose to accept a solid attempt at handling a wrongdoing.
marginalized people don't owe anyone forgiveness, but we frustratingly live in a world where people aren't allowed to unlearn bigotry either
It is easier for marginalized people to point the flaws out and forget about it but I think it makes more sense to try to meet it with understanding and then moving on.
We didn't read the same article, clearly.
That is what combining multiple perspectives will do :)
You misunderstood the article. I was being charitable.
Hmm I don't think I did, I think I am allowed to have a different perspective.
This is unbeleivably frustrating because AFAICT this is the best Wayland TWM out there, I've been using it for about a year now and it's really good 😅. Have any recs on a feature competative option that isn't run by bigots?
Sway has been super solid since before Hyprland even existed.
I'm amazed by the amount of work being done by Hyprland devs. I remember how they were just starting not that long ago, and now it's (probably) the most popular Wayland window manager.
...now it's (probably) the most popular Wayland window manager.
KWin and Mutter probably hold that title and likely will for many years to come. There would have to be a mass exodus or software switch in Plasma and Gnome before Hyprland could match their market share.
Of course, I was comparing it to other "standalone" window managers, not the ones used by GNOME/KDE, since the userbase will be obviously much higher for the desktop environments.
Kwin and mutter only run with desktopmanagers, he meant windowmanagers that come around without a desktopmanager, like sway or i3 etc.
I wonder if i3 is more, just because it's been around forever, but I could certainly see Hyprland as having the most growth among standalone options.
I would think i3 is slowly dying because sway is it's Wayland replacement. But wrong, i3 has a stable fanbase.
Sway, from what I understand, hasn't really made a ton of improvements that would entice the X11 holdouts to switch. Not that it's bad, but if it's virtually the same as X11—and that's what someone knows best—why would they bother switching (I would, but I also try to use Wayland whenever possible).
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