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Previously on Lemmy: Sony

Past Discussions:

I thought we should restart the brand discussion with something more popular to give this community relaunch a bit more oomph. So, Samsung it is.

I've never really used a Samsung phone much before, despite them being so popular in the States. Have friends who used them, they usually look nice and high quality, and the Galaxy S Active are the only high-end phones I know that doesn't shatter when you look at them wrong without a case, so, props to Samsung.

There are may reasons I don't like Samsung phones: Hardware fuse disabling Knox on bootloader unlock, Exynos vs Snapdragon models, the mandatory Bixby button, the Galaxy Note 7 that really blew up. To me, Samsung phones are trying so hard to go against what makes Android good, which is the customizability to do whatever you wanted. Android is everything; Samsung is just Samsung.

Personally, I think Samsung is only worth buying at the very high end for the Galaxy S series. I've heard that A series have gotten better, but there always seems to be better choices from Moto/Pixel/Chinese brands on Amazon that it's not worth considering their low tier offering.

What should we do next week? I'm thinking Microsoft, just to make fun of them for the very idea of making a Surface Duo 2.

FAQ:

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[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I suffered through 2 years of zero software updates, not even security updates. Google Pay stopped working randomly. I contacted Samsung support who couldn't figure out why on either of these issues. It also kept lighting up on full brightness in the middle of the night due to no reason I could figure out, despite being on do-not-disturb. Never buying a Samsung again.

[–] rwaddilove@techhub.social 3 points 2 years ago

@kablammy @MargotRobbie I have always had a good experience. I bought a cheap-ish Samsung and it has worked perfectly for the last 3 years. My Samsung before that, I kept for 5 years. One minor irritation is that Samsung includes apps you might not want. I use third mostly party apps. Eg. Chrome browser instead of Samsung browser.

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[–] Serpardum@lemmyonline.com 5 points 2 years ago

Cant use same email on two phones if you lost old one, because need old phone to verify account.

Over time phone runs slower and slower.

I find Motorola's much better, I generally go with the Pure.

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Really nice hardware, inexcusably bad software.

[–] Fredol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Too much bloat, no bootloader unlock. International model can be bootloader unlocked but you can't change secure boot keys and relock.

[–] EarMaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I had (tbh I still have it somewhere) a Samsung Galaxy (the first model, no S, no number, no anything) as it was the first Android phone available in my country. About a year later Samsung decided they won't support this model anymore and I had to install custom firmware to keep it up to date to the quickly evolving Android landscape back then. I never bought anything from them again.

[–] Screwthehole@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

S22 ultra here for 18 months now. Great phone, although I'm not into unlocking and Linuxing my phone. As it is, it's durable, camera amazing, speed great, screen great, speakers are awesome. No complaints about hardware at all. In fact, I find them to be the best available hardware right now.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

My opinion on them based on my last phone I got from them (S22 Ultra Exynos) is pretty mid just like the phone for its price. I overall think they are right now in a bit of a slump and resting very much on their laurels. Their phones are still for the most part very good, market leading in some points even, but they have slowed down the innovation a lot. Like the last 3 Galaxy Ultra phones are pretty much the same product. And the regular S20, S21, ... line also takes 0 risks and cuts one too many corners for my liking. And the whole Exynos situation is just a shame since usually where I live we pay more for less. If they stuck those Chips in 500 - 700€ ish phones and passed along the saving they would wipe the floor with all the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 1 wannabe flaghips.

What I think however nobody will take away from them anytime soon is OneUI. I think right now its the best and most feature complete Android skin and its refreshing seeing Samsung stick and refine one design for this long (before they changed the look and feel every 2 - 3 years). I only wish they would bring back Linux on Dex which was in beta for some time. That would be a killer feature for me!

I disagree regarding Android. Google's Android feels to me like it's trying to go against everything that makes Android good such as SafetyNet, Android 12 removing customizability from Android 11 and choosing default apps convoluted, separating gestures and launchers, half assed tablet experience.

One UI has a lot more customization and practical options and generally always implemented features before Google did, like split screen and still can do things no other OEM can.

[–] zulc22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hated Samsung phones when I had them ~2019 because of One UI being so far behind Android as well as me getting constantly badgered to create a Samsung account to use the Samsung store so I can upgrade the built-in photo editor even though I never had any reason to do so.

I didn't see any reason to complain about the hardware One UI ran on, though.

[–] EowynCarter@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I had a note 8.

Ok phone, nice pen.

But the one phone I managed to break the screen of. Tanks to curved screen that make using proper protection impossible.

Went back to nexus / pixel.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I like them. Bloat ware is a bit annoying, but not a deal breaker. Just use my launcher to hide it. Timely updates, decent UI, relatively long-term support, some neat features here and there (integration with Windows 10-100 Phone Link is really cool), and having one of the last phones with the trifecta of headphone jack + microSD card slot + OIS means I'll be holding on to this for a long long time!

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[–] decadentrebel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their foldables are so damn fragile. My sister's Flip 4 was busted after a fall with a case while my Fold 4 had the black line of death not too soon after the screen protector on the inner screen started popping off.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe we should do a big discussion on just foldables next time.

[–] amenotef@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't like them for me. I hate all the Samsung software injected into android.

But for regular people they are probably the most recommended ones in the android ecosystem. So I recommend them sometimes if the budget is good.

I might not like the software. But the hardware seems good quality. And software still has some cool functions.

Somebody told me it has a way to hibernate apps that are in the background. And I think that is amazing.

[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 3 points 2 years ago

I use cheap M11 phone. Solid and durable phone but a bit overpriced on my country. It survive my abuse for 2 and half years until now from dropped to gravel repatedly to get washed using tap water (dont try this at home, lol). It also somehow always better at receiving signal than my wife's Xiaomi phone. I love it.

[–] ConvertCoffeeToCode@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I recently bought an S23 after owning 2 pixels and a nexus. So far, I'm loving the experience much more, funny enough because of the things people call bloatware. Maybe it's because I play lots of games.

The sidebar shortcuts a super useful, the lockscreen customizations remind me of old android before google went all apple, and dex is great for multitasking.

The only thing that's a bit annoying is bixby, but i simply installed google assistant alongside it.

[–] schulzi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Same for me, except I'm more using the Dex feature as playing games on the S23. But this is my first Samsung and I'm impressed.

[–] singinwhale@lmy.singinwhale.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm honestly quite happy with my Samsungs so far. Had an S9 and currently use an S21.

I honestly prefer the Samsung apps over the Google apps most of the time. They also integrate better with non google stuff. Especially calendar, contacts and mail. The Bixby button has been gone for a while now and most of the bloatware is hidden away well enough to be able to ignore it easily.

The irreversible bootloader unlock is quite the shame really because it will cause most banking apps to refuse to work so I never unlockedy bootloader. I used to do this on my nexus and Sony phones. Tbf though I don't miss my root privileges currently. Android and Samsungs one ui has come a long way.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I personally love Samsung. Have a Note20 Ultra still going strong, got a Tab S9 and Galaxy Watch 5 Pro in the last year. They are all so customizable out of the box using Good Lock and other software that it would be painful to switch. I find they all perform really well and the improvements of OneUI are appreciated. I like the Calendar, Browser (on tablet), Reminders and some other apps much more than Google's offerings.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

When LG folded their mobile division I chose a Motorola over a Samsung.

The only thing I'd buy from Samsung without a lot of persuasion is Samsung's SSD drives, which are usually the best and most reliable on the market.

The main problem is that Samsung is one of the worst hardware manufacturers in terms of valuing privacy, even their TV's are being geared towards spamming ads at you and spying on you through their cameras.

Also Samsung forces Facebook/Meta bloat ware on you.

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The hardware is pretty good. Not a fan of Exynos tho.

The software feels really bloated. I usually have LineageOS on it instead. Compared to One UI, the Pixel-like UI feels very clean, and the OS feels very lightweight.

If it was impossible to have something less-bloated, I'd probably switch phone to a cleaner Android.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

They became dead to me the moment they stopped having removable batteries.

No, this is not a Note 7 joke or anything. I just really hate the trend of integrated batteries in electronics because it places a fundamental limit on the product's useful life of about four to five years before the battery degrades so much that it becomes essentially unusable as a mobile device. It's probably the single worst "innovation" in consumer electronics history. Replacing a sealed-in battery out of warranty is often similar in price to getting a new damn phone, and not without risk either since modern phones are sealed so tightly that even professional technicians can accidentally destroy the rest of the device while trying to disassemble it.

You used to boast that your removable batteries were an advantage over the iPhone, Samsung. What happened to that?

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[–] A10@kerala.party 3 points 2 years ago

I actively avoid buying exynos based samsungs. Rest is OK. Was lucky enough to buy M51 with 7000mah battery and an efficient snapdragon SOC which lasts minimum 2 days on full charge.

[–] JustANOTHERuser@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Have an s21, wife has s22, few yrs ago child had A20 (I think) the s series has been great. I could have upgraded to s22 didn't want. The A20 was horrid but for a youngish teen it was "fine" if I had to get another phone I would look around and see whats what but over all I like my phone better than the s22, and while my phone was being repaired I bought a Moto G5, considering the cost I hated the damn thing and was slow as F. Now my other youngish teen has that one, I am just happy to be rid of it. It worked for me, just barely. Admit to having been used to the s21, so may be somewhat biast.

I really like it. All the customisation is enough that I don't miss rooting my phone. And I think I'm kinda stuck with them for a while now, because I can't live without one hand operation, which is even better when combined with one handed mode. I can do everything and reach anywhere on the screen using only one hand, without hand gymnastics.

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