185
Introducing Proton CAPTCHA
(proton.me)
Feels like releasing a new (privacy oriented) horse drawn buggy design just as automobiles are taking off
Captcha has already been extremely questionable for years, as there are open source tools to break em, and AIs emerging that can describe what's in images
Take as a case study RuneScape building custom captcha games during login to try and dissuade bots. It didn't work, the bots easily adapted to the new games
Google's reCaptcha no longer recommends any user interaction at all. The new methodology is using AI to wholistically examine user behavior/identity with as much data as possible
Basically, I think Proton wasted their time, and captchas are a dumb system. They added computational challenges, but they start easy and are pitched when image fails. So I'm not so convinced that they will work better than cloudflare
even if you're right, obsolete technologies usually hang around for way longer than they should. so this could still be useful in some capacity for the next 20 years, even if it is annoying and easily defeatable. kind of like putting a really shitty lock on something. It won't stop anyone determined, but it will stop 99% of people from opening it.
Problem is that this only matters for botters, and those are the guys who showed up with the bolt cutters
You are absolutely correct. CAPTCHAs are dead. Look at Cloudflare's Managed Challenge (turnstile) for the type of system that replaces CAPTCHAs. What a waste of time and resources, Proton.
Wireguard on Linux for Proton VPN and a Bridge for Calendar (or adding Calendar to the current Bridge) would be great for making current services better.
I would like searchable email content on mobile, calendar bridge, and a Drive that could actually sync my files between all my devices instead of just individually backup up each device to the cloud? The implementation of Drive is so strange to me I can hardly fathom the idea behind it. I must have used every other cloud drive under the sun over the years. No one has worked like Proton. Instead they have worked like expected.
Proton is google as it should have been. Proton the white if you will.
This is awesome stuff. I like the direction Proton is taking of slowly adding services. I hope they get to build a web browser sooner. Hopefully not based on Chromium but Firefox (Gecko).
Complete what services?
this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
185 points (98.4% liked)
Proton
5272 readers
27 users here now
Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.
Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.
Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.
Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.
Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.
Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.
SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS