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The democrats did this to themselves (lemmy.world)

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The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

It's been on my mind too, especially 2016 and 2020. My first vote was for Obama in the primary in 2007 and it got me interested in politics. What we have now just... sucks. I wanted Warren in 2020, but states that don't even vote blue decided Biden was the pick.

Had there been a primary in 2024, though, it'd have likely gone to Harris anyway and we'd probably have had the same results. I don't think we'll have a good primary until the electorial college is abolished and the red states who vote on primaries actually have say that matters, or we change how primaries work so that it's reflective of states that actually vote blue (and while we're at it, have it on the same fucking day so it's not first come first serve).

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

We don’t know how a 2024 primary would of went, because the democrats refused to run one. Anyone who doesn’t think this played a major contribution in their loss has their head in the sand.

That is the point of my post.

As for 2020, all the candidates except Warren sanders and biden dropped out right before Super Tuesday. Warren had no path to nomination, sanders did. It was deliberate sabotage against the progressive wing of the party. Had it not been for the horrendous covid response trump would of won that year. The fact that it was even close was an embarrassment.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Oh I'm 100% with you and there is never a way to confirm how things would have gone. We were doomed since 2020, I knew Biden would have a hard time with a second term. I just hoped Trump would have died by now.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 21 hours ago

There was a 2024 democractic primary. I voted for biden. Barring that they use the super electors so yeah its basically rigged. They actually rigged it to make it hard for extreme canidates to win which is just another reason why the dems are not the left party but the centerist party. Its just there is no left party that wins the way the right wins. That being given though the super electors have been around for awhile so the all the primaries including 2008 are equally legitimate or illigitimate and have been so by and large since 1984. They really should get rid of the superdelegates as it was a knee jerk reaction to reagan "democrats".

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[-] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

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[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

Good post. People have a hard time learning from past mistakes. So will the Democrats learn their lesson this time. Maybe, only time will tell.

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