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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With a more representative electoral system, we could have more then two buttons. First-past-the-post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system, which is why we must replace it as soon as we can.

Yall believe in democracy right?

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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Left out rapist under Trump's "accomplishments"

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I didn't follow as closely. was he convicted of rape? I know he was accused. given his track record im 100% sure he's guilty of everything. but I thought he managed to settle and weasel his way out so he's not officially convicted as a rapist...

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[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

Undecided voter = person who cannot discern truth

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't understand how there are undecided voters this election... I understand trump voters. Ride or die republicans, bigots, wealthy people that want more money for themselves. They are fucked up, but they make sense.

But how are you undecided? What are you weighing up. If you're not in the aforementioned groups, what single positive thing does trump offer?

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Undecided voters aren’t undecided because they’re oblivious to what’s going on. They’re undecided because they live in a swing state, so they have more power than the average voter, and most importantly they want something. They see the candidates campaigning specifically for them. They’re hoping to be offered a promise they actually care about.

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[-] stochasticity@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I've seen some people try the free speech angle. But that isn't true either. Neither he nor Elon are actually about free speech.

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

No, they're inherently more anti free speech than the people they're puroportedly against, anyone using that justification is either ignorant or only cares about not getting in trouble for being a bigot

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[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The only reason I can actually understand an undecided voter is if it's actually a strategic decision to entice the parties to give them more. An undecided voter is worth so much that Elon is literally giving away millions of dollars to sway them. Yeah it's chump change to him but it's still unprecedented. It would be kind of like a nullifying jurur, in that they're saying something completely different than what they're thinking. That totally gives undecided voters way more credit than they're actually due, because in reality they're just ignorant of the situation.

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[-] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 day ago

what does the guy who's openly threatening the future of American democracy think about my taxes

[-] hohoho@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago

He thinks your taxes are too low and billionaires taxes are too high!

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

I was JUST thinking my taxes are too low!

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago

he promises a tax plan that will not materially improve things for you or i and a reduction in the things that taxes go towards that benefit us

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

and the people that stand to lose the most because of him call him their God emperor and vote for him

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m going to go out on a pretty long limb here and suggest the possibly that they’re not actually undecided at all.

[-] pezhore@infosec.pub 16 points 1 day ago

I've read (not sure how true) that it's not necessarily undecided between Harris and Trump - more undecided about even showing up to vote.

I honestly don't know what's worse.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Are there really many voters undecided between Harris and Trump?

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Naw there's just a bunch of people who won't admit they're voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don't want their friends/community thinking they're voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they're undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they're voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.

They may not even want the fascist part. But they're voting for Trump because they think one day they'll make over $500k/yr and they don't want to pay "200% more taxes" (it's actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they'd never say it.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Statistically, that's just not true. Just look at the differences from the polls, the margin between Harris and Trump has moved quite some percentage points back and forth. E.g. after RFKs endorsement, more undecided voters went to Trump and after the debate, more went back to Harris.

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[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

sadly yes. there are people who are still on the fence. given that 70million people will look the other way and vote for him despite the lies, dementia, racism, Facism, Nazism, narcissism, sexism, felonies, fraud, racketeering, sexual harassment, etc. I'm not surprised a few million are on the fence.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn't voting for anyone. I guess that's better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

He's not a Nazi; he's a fascist. Nazi refers to a specific political party. Fascist is more general.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 1 day ago

The distinction between a "real" Nazi and a Hitler fanboy is too fine to matter.

He wants to be Hitler, so that's close enough for me.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

Oh, I'm not saying he's any better than a Nazi. Just being pedantic.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

If he walks like a nazi, talks like a nazi and acts like a nazi. He's a fucking nazi.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The main difference, as I understand, is that national socialism is inherently racist and puts the (Aryan) race on top of the ideology, everything else must submit to the benefit of the (Aryan) race, whereas fascism puts the benefit of the state on top.

https://historyplex.com/difference-between-fascism-nazism

Trump, as far as I can judge from beyond the pond, is still claiming to put the state, or the United States of America, first, like a fascist would do. His hate speech against immigrants still serves the narrative of them being bad for the US, not of them being disadvantageous towards the benefit of the Aryan race.

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Ignoring everything else here prosecutor is a net negative and "Felon" isn't a bad thing necessarily. If you want to you can criticize Trump without propping up law enforcement.

[-] sudo@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago

Okay but in this case, felon is a bad thing because the crimes trump has been convicted of are serious offenses that should make him ineligible to even be president.

trump wasn't convicted on 1 or 2 charges that were pushed on him by racist fascist pigs. He is the racist fascist pig. Who was convicted of scores of felonies.

It is a bad thing. Necessarily.

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So frustrating

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

not to be in support of trumb, but if someones records are spotless that is inherently suspicious to me. is she even allowed to run for president if she hasn't visited a sex trafficker?

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

Her record isn’t spotless, but when you compare someone to trump it might as well look spotless because the context of trump makes it look so clean

I’m not fully knowledgeable about her record since I have more pressing things to worry about rather than researching harris, but as a queer person, I am aware of some of her shortcomings regarding queer rights.

She has explicitly tried to prevent trans people from receiving gender affirming care when in prison and challenged a ruling in favor of a transwoman to do so.

Source: (washington blade)

She also supported trans women in men’s prisons which is an extra horrific experience for a trans person, since queer people are generally more likely to be assaulted, raped, and sexually assaulted in prison. Trans women in men’s prisons have it the worst.

This happened in the past, but with her not explicitly making trans rights a campaign issue in the face of how much discrimination they are currently facing, it is concerning.

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