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submitted 1 week ago by maxprime@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I’m a teacher and our division just “upgraded” to W11 with a new version of outlook that is basically a web app on desktop. Several times a day my laptop comes to a complete crawl while Teams decides to open itself. Can’t open or close programs, Firefox won’t register mouse clicks, nothing. Graphical glitches appear al the time with menu bars and task bars disappearing regularly, requiring force quitting the app or logging out of the desktop.

When I first switched to Linux I assumed my experience would be like this. But now it’s the other way around.

Rant over.

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[-] mr_satan@monyet.cc 22 points 1 week ago

TL; DR
My experience between Windows and Linux is not much different with how often I have issues. But given the choice I much more prefer my Linux experience.

I hate Windows just as much as the next guy, but this comment section smells a little of confirmation bias.

From my experiece (web dev in a mainly MS branded stack) Windows mostly just works. Yes there are horrendous design, UX choices forced upon me, but I can usually force the OS to do what I need and how I need it.

Now comparing it to my home Pop setup it also mostly just works. There are occasional freezes that require a restart and such, but I wouldn't say it's much more different from Windows.

Now what does differ a lot is that I don't need to fight the OS to do shit. It's way better productivitywise, when I know what I'm doing. Which is deffinetly not the case everytime.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Pop setup it also mostly just works. There are occasional freezes that require a restart and such

Weird. I used Pop for 3-4 years and not once did it freeze, stutter, or require a restart that wasn't related to an update.

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[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 16 points 1 week ago

I feel the same way about having to use Mac for work and going back to a Linux PC at the end of the day. God damn I hate Mac's UX. From the entire UI, to the CMD key, to the fact that END functions as PGDN and goes to and of page instead of end of line.

[-] ElectricFlux77@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

It's bad enough when I have to use a keyboard that moves the pg up/pg dn/home/end keys around. That would absolutely kill my productivity so I'm glad I don't have to use macs.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

We’re being forced to move everyone to W11 by the end of the year. It’s gonna be hell.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

My company already did - it was a shitshow and my laptop sucks even more now.

[-] autokludge@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is basically http://mail.office365.com in an electron shell. I'm pretty sure all the non 'classic' apps are this way now. I'm currently trying out Thunderbird to see if I like it.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Personally I've been using outlook via pwa for months anyway

If they're gonna put it in an electron container anyway you be may as well cut out the middleman and just use the web app Microsoft's ones are actually quite good now

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

I have to use SharePoint on a daily basis.

[-] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

We pray for you

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

You're fucked.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I requested a Windows machine at work a few years ago, because the specs were amazing, and I was getting frustrated with Mac OS. After using the Windows machine for a couple days I was reminded why I don't like Windows anymore, and returned the machine, despite its amazing specs. It just wasn't worth it.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

I spend a lot of my workday looking at windows that have turned white and "not responding", or clicking on things and waiting a minute to see whether the click worked, or waiting for the Start menu to allow me to type, or waiting for the indexing service to spare me a little bit of my computer for my own use, etc. Then I come home to Linux and remember how computers can actually be fast and satisfying to use.

[-] haerrii@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Oh W11 start menu is so damn slow... I usuall smash Win and then immediately start typing the Application I need. After the Windows 11 upgrade, the menu chokes on the first two letters leaving me with having to redo everything slowly.

[-] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

When teams is just doing chat things, it's fine. But the fact that it's the only program that doesn't remember which monitor it is supposed to be on, and never remembers the show on all desktop settings, drives me insane. Not to mention that it seems to restart itself multiple time per day and makes me fix its location each time.

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[-] exu@feditown.com 8 points 1 week ago

When I started my new job I got a pretty unrestricted Windows machine, so I decided to try and use that. WSL is pretty impressive and I managed to work with Emacs and some other tools installed in it until Windows decided stuff should run way slower now. Magit got especially slow doing any git operation.

That weekend I installed Linux (with permission) and it's perfect now.

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[-] iii@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Had the same issue with outlook last weeks. 60% CPU usage, doing nothing.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

I thought outlook had been electron for a while

I've been using the outlook pwa on Linux for some time with no issues, maybe try that instead if it's causing problems for you on windows?

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

My first job I was using Windows, thankfully I was able to use Linux my next 3 jobs in a row. It really helps justify Linux when our production servers are always running Linux.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Our production servers are all Linux and we have a fully Linux dev stack. My request for a Linux work machine was denied and we have to work in WSL.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago
[-] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I use both but windows 11 has been generally stable and visual artifact free for me even more than windows 10. Like i have never seen BSOD on 11 yet but on 10 it was regular.

Btw did you tweak it to remove bloat and crapware? Windows will break if you do it even if the bloat removing tool call it stable.

[-] idotherock@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Guh. Amen to this! I’m in the same boat. Sometimes I just bring a Linux laptop with me to work just to have a break from the work computer.

[-] Talaraine@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah now add Dynamics to all that and you get my day. Eyeroll

[-] nobleshift@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Going from my laptops to a client's Windows machine feels like I'm stepping back in time, every time.

Even my Win10 VM is light years ahead of Windows 'proper' because of all of the modifications to make it usable.

MS Windows belongs in a museum, not at an office or on a desk.

(hate spewed at me by Adobe Premiere)

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