Upon being criticised for their support of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks, tankies unsurprisingly double down (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago

That is psychotic. They recognize it is wrong, too. They would be screeching in apoplectic rage if a radical opposed to their speech were talking about pipe bombing some sort of IRL Hexbear meme reposting event.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 15 points 11 hours ago

Apparently drawing Mohammad is worse than a fucking pipe bomb. Thank God I have the self awareness to browse communities outside of my echo chamber. I wish they did too

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

"What does this have to do with communism anymore?"

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 21 points 13 hours ago

throwing a pipe bomb into an art contest

incredibly good and based

This is what happens when you become consumed by hatred. The most insane statements seem entirely reasonable to them, because they are blinded by fear and hate.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago

Their love towards Islamic extremism is so strange.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

"Leftism" is when a economically right wing authoritarian state opposes America.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

@archomrade@midwest.social I don't think your post worked out too well 🐔

also I want to point out the amazing differences between these communities. See, you're very much, unapologetically, a tankie, but you're fully allowed to comment and even engage in this community despite your farming and attempted framing that this community is extremist.

Now, if we were to do the same, we'd be defederated. Which we were!

Perhaps you should use the liberty this community has to actually ask for our opinions as opposed to fishing for responses. You'll find we're a very diverse community with many different opinions, some are even communists.

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -16 points 13 hours ago

I wouldn't be fishing here if I wasn't getting bites, and I wouldn't have thought to dip my hook in the water if I hadn't seen abundant signs of good fishing.

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them. But they've not committed to civility like you've done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma'd. Four different users also attempted to dox me. I know since I was in their private chatrooms during the time. Seeing them get frustrated when they couldn't do it was very entertaining. They even tried image meta-data, the poor things

And my mask? I don't have a mask. I'm very honest with my views and am willing to share them with anyone who wishes to know.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Can people with views that differ my own have come to those views in an honest and reasoned fashion, even if I think they’re flawed?

Nah, they’re definitely just bad faith fascists hiding their “power level”.

Scary easy to see how easy you end up with thought police when people that think like this hold power.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago

Extremists tend to think everyone else is as extreme as they are. It's quite sad

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -14 points 12 hours ago

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

Welp, i guess there we have it. I've so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don't get on their bad side.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 13 points 12 hours ago

why would you? you agree with them lol. try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you'll be in trouble

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

[+] archomrade@midwest.social -11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

I have no way of knowing if that's accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma'd.

try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

I probably wouldn't say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

What can I say, they aren't a monolith.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 13 points 12 hours ago

You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -2 points 11 hours ago

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[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Bad on what grounds? His Soviet project certainly didn’t last, I think that failure is bad. He had quite a few deaths under his leadership, that was pretty bad, too. But it’d be crazy to discuss Stalin’s failures without acknowledging the post war reality: a depleted and war-torn Russia, former allies (who just dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to make a point) immediately resuming hostilities and sanctions against his fledgling national project, and the isolation that comes with being that cold-war black sheep that nobody wants to play with. From that perspective it’s suddenly not surprising that his project failed, even if you think he committed huge atrocities on the way down.

If you disagree with Stalin, you'd better be quick to acknowledge the systemic conditions that contributed to his failure before you get to blaming him for the holomodor lmao. Fair game if you think his leadership decisions were huge mistakes or weren't justified, though they'll probably disagree.

damn that didn't take long at all, what is it with you guys and your inability to disavow stalin's atrocities? poor, poor Stalin's USSR was forced to do genocide, they had to kill all those people :(

Lenin is screaming at you

Since you've been banned for this very topic before, this one will last 48 hours. You may request to be unbanned and your comments restored at any time. Something that Hexbear will not give you

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago

You're way too lenient with someone who self admitted to be here to troll.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I am very lenient with them, yeah. It's good to have people with dissenting opinions, even though they're acting in bad faith and have admitted to just fishing for replies. Diversity is key, afterall. Of course, it'll be different if they were insulting every user here and generally being a bad sport.

However, the line is drawn at apologia.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 13 points 12 hours ago

I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them.

You actually believe this?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Maybe? ~~You should go and try provoking them, see if they still treat you with civility.~~

edit: goat is right, I was using sarcasm and did not indicate that clearly. I do not support going there to cause trouble, but you are absolutely allowed to go there and behave.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No brigading. Brigading is a headache for both admins

this community is an exception, although a rickety one

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

I've seen how they behave on other instances, no way will they be polite and courteous when someone disagrees with them on home turf.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -5 points 11 hours ago

You just gotta know which things you disagree on, and why they might strongly disagree with you, and not just say "fuck it, imma blast off".

If you go in wanting to make a point then yea. They will not be courteous.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Ah, love this.

'They're fine if you supply evidence to back up your claims'

'Actually if you try to do that then you'll be booted'

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago

Poor thing's got no idea how stupid they sound.

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