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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

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Will solve conflict in the Middle East by letting Israel kill whoever they want, and take any land they want, with full support from the US

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Will solve conflict in the Middle East by letting Israel kill whoever they want, and take any land they want, with full support from the US

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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I don’t know who is driving the Gaza protest rhetoric. It’s a question that should be answered. Because the absolute anti-Democrats narrative while simultaneously getting extraordinarily butthurt if anyone points out the Trump/Republican stance (and the fact it’s Congress that votes the Israeli aid) is indicative of foreign-based propaganda that cares NOT AT ALL about Gaza. It’s about getting Trump re-elected. Either that or the people posting here and across social media calling this war a genocide are just plain stupid or really, really feel self-fulfilled by their own anger.

You wanna complain about an actual genocide, look up what’s happening in Sudan as we speak.

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

When strawman versus just one person isn't anywhere near enough

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 years ago

This is not a 1000 year conflict.

Israel cannot perpetrate it's crimes without the backing of the USA.

Stop excusing genocide and colonialism.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

600 upvotes you reddit migrants must be proud

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That conflict is just 76 years old. Even the idology that caused the conflict ist just 130 years old. Before the British colonialism the region had almost no conflict since the crucades.

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[–] cashsky@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Please look up Brett Mcgurk before you praise Biden and Kamala's stance on Israel. Literally following Bush era policies in the Middle East.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Bullshit, Israel can barely breathe from all the pressure the US is exerting /s

[–] Good4Nuthin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[–] Juice@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Utterly breathtaking amount of historical confusion.

After WW1 the British, who were the major imperial colonial power at the time, though on a steep decline, had already decided that the strip of land we now know as Israel/Palestine was a strategic necessity in order to ensure a divided and weak middle eastern political arrangement, which could be exploited by mineral and oil investors. The old colonial system was clearly on the way out, and needed to be replaced by a system of international finance neocolonialism that came to prominence after WW2 with the Marshall Plan.

So they knew they couldn't just colonize Palestine, it was against their interests as the seat of international finance capital. This was outlined in broad strokes in the Balfour Declaration written by James Balfour sent to Lord Lionel Rothschild, later adopted with the League of Nations Mandate in 1921. So they backed the Zionist project and started encouraging Zionists to move to Palestine which had an existing Jewish population and whose government was generally tolerant of these Zionists who brought with them lots of foreign capital to invest. This plan continued until WW2 when the industrial economies of Europe, and especially Britain were utterly destroyed by the war. The USA, which had stayed out of the war as much as possible until the battle of Stalingrad that turned the tides against the Nazis, had wanted this since it could then establish itself as the world's industrial powerhouse and seat of neocolonial finance capital. After a period of mass industrialization, this is exactly what happened.

But of course the international finance capitalists, wherever they were stationed, had a plan in place for the region of Palestine; and a few years later, with backing of the international community, we have the tragedy of the Nakba.

100 years of conflict, engineered by the international ruling class of our current world. Obviously regional tensions existed, Muslim and Jewish tradition goes back a very long time and has occupied the same parts of the world for much of it, but the period of peace that existed in the region of Palestine was 500 years long before the British carved up the Ottoman empire for their own benefit.

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