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A national dental care program was one of the keystones of the now-ended supply-and-confidence agreement between the Liberals and NDP, inked in 2022. It involves plans to roll out coverage especially for children, seniors, and low-income Canadians, and with remaining eligible Canadians slated to gain access in 2025.

When pressed by Kapelos on the statistic that nearly 650,000 Canadians have already accessed care, Scheer again would not directly say whether his party would scrap the program, if elected.

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 months ago

Pay attention Canada, because this is the shit we'll have to deal with if PP and his Cons win the next election.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

The Cons want to accelerate inequity among Canadians in health, wealth, and everything else. That's a huge problem. I think it's safe to say Canadians are sick of Justin Trudeau and his out of touch with everyday Canadians approach. His ego is going to keep him on the election ballot and the only question about the government that forms will be Conservative minority or majority. I feel like we're all hostage to Justin Trudeau's ego right now. Looking south of the border, Biden and camp waited until the decision was made for them. I don't see the same forces converging in JT's case. I think things are going to have to get very very loud for JT to wake up to do the right thing. I don't know how helpful the mainstream media will be in acknowledging popular interest in left-of-centre politics yet staunch opposition to JT at this point

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

I think it's safe to say Canadians are sick of Justin Trudeau and his out of touch with everyday Canadians approach.

I think even that claim is about 70% conservative talking points.

Most people are ambivalent about the prime minister (or premier for that matter)

And for people who don't spend much time discussing or thinking about politics, all it can take is to hear a couple of voices talking vaguely about "that politician's scandals" to nudge them towards a negative opinion.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I think I might have mistakenly sounded like a Conservative talking point. My point was supposed to be that I think many people who vote left of the Conservatives see Justin Trudeau as the lesser of two evils at best, someone who has not delivered on their promises, and someone who seems increasingly out of touch with the needs of working Canadians.

I vote NDP and am fortunate to have almost always have lived in NDP ridings. I mean to lament how disappointing it is to have the most realistic alternative to PP be so unappealing, especially against the incredible showings of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz who've shown how momentous progressive politics can be.

I, personally, don't think Trudeau has a chance against PP but that any decent replacement candidate for the LPC would probably have a slight advantage against PP to begin.

More than anything, my concern is the detrimental effects of a Conservative government. And JT staying on the ticket seems like most influential factor at this point

[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Polls show liberals tracking behind conservatives by 20 points back in July. Even if this figure is exaggerated, when you include the loss of that so called "safe" seat in June, the trend is only worsening, and everybody but Trudeau can read the writing on the wall.

Dont dismiss this as "fake news" unless you want a conservative majority next election.

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you want trump's project 2025 in Canada Squinty McProudBoy is the way there. The harper toadie is the candidate because he is a harper toadie. #Canada #SquintyMcProudBoy #BitcoinMilhouse #trumpLite #skinnytrump

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I'm curious what Con voters will tell themselves after we lose this. And then whatever they take after that. What do they think, internally? Is it enough for them that people they've never met suffer, or do they require it to be specific people?

Good luck everyone, I am starting to feel a very real fear.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It took 4-8 years of US rural voters not caring about things until it affected them before they even started considering that Trump doesn't care for any American besides himself. In the UK I don't even know how they lasted in that trance for so long.

My cynical take is that people are going to recognize the destructive effects of a Conservative government only after 5-10 years at the least. If the political blocs don't change, then we'll get milquetoast Liberals again. Conservative media will continue to repeat "Liberals bad" enough for people to believe it again.

I have no experience in political strategy, but the only few ways I see of breaking out of this cycle is to

A: adopt a fairer voting system

B: Link the Canadian Conservative Party to the US Republican party, Project 2025 etc.

C: Announce progressive action so bold with near-immediate effects that it makes a difference to their electoral prospects, without appearing like an electoral bribe/promise.

I have heard little interest in A from government, grits and NDP might be waiting until November to do B so they don't slander people they may be forced to work with, and C is nigh impossible, at least I can't think of any realistic policy example that could achieve that. A proper UBI might be close.

[-] TheFin@leminal.space 9 points 2 months ago

Actually that says it all

[-] OhOkKay@beige.party 1 points 2 months ago
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