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    I have been using Linux for a few years, usually some flavor of Debian. But recently I acquired an older Thinkpad and thought it would behoove me to use something more... involved.
    So I chose to dive into Manjaro and only broke pacman once. So now the question... can I say I'm using Arch btw or is that a faux pas?

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    [–] potentiallynotfelix 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Also a pro tip: Use endeavourOS not manjaro, it's more stable

    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I feel my life is too stable. I need more excitement.

    [–] HeckGazer@programming.dev 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Don't update any arch based distro for long enough and your life will be plenty exciting when you do. Bonus points if you use a non-lts kernel that can blip out of existence at any moment along with all the graphics drivers

    [–] shadowbert@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

    I learnt this the hard way when I worked out my shutdown script that did this automatically had stopped working :P

    [–] Marty@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    How long is to long? I've been running the same arch install for a few years and wondering if it supposed to be time for a reinstall?

    *I also have backups of all my configs and read the arch news before updating so I'm not really that worried.

    [–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Are you not updating it regularly? They said, "Don't update for long enough..."

    [–] Marty@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

    ...oh, yeah I miss read that. I took it as don't use arch for to long without reinstalling rather than don't not update for too long. I update about once a week.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Arch is relatively unstable just by being rolling, but manjaro is another level of unstable lol. if wish to use it, im not gonna stop you, but I'd advise you not to rely on the computer you install it on.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

    Yeah you don't want your computer to be stable for 5 years going, that's very un-Arch.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago
    [–] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Manjaro, is in fact, Arch/Manjaro, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Arch plus Manjaro. Manjaro is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Arch system made useful by pacman, yay and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    [–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

    I can see future archeologists (god forbid, Ai archeologists) digging up old posts like this and going, "tf, this was upvoted? Interjecting with too much tangential information? The tone came off rude though?" and not get the reference if they weren't versed in linux community culture already

    [–] meekah@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I mean, its mostly a meme anyways so I say go for it

    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 15 points 10 months ago

    It's a meme?! Wow... that explains the looks I get during speed dating....

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, Manjaro is Arch for toddlers.

    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 18 points 10 months ago

    Finally a distro that is on my mental level.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I like to call it Arch for the lazy.

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Well, jokes aside, people who install Arch usually want maximum flexibility out of their system (I have no idea why you would torture yourself like that otherwise). And after some time spent with Manjaro, I can confidently say that it greatly sacrifices your ability to tinker with the system in the name of user friendliness. A great distro to start with, but if you still like it after a couple of months, you probably didn't need Arch in the first place.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Oh definitely, Manjaro is all about "mommy knows best". It's why people who say "you should use Arch instead of Manjaro" are completely missing the point.

    Technically, Manjaro used Arch exactly as intended, leveraging its flexibility, but it's very ironic that it used it to remove said flexibility. I'm guessing it's why some Arch fans feel betrayed and hate Manjaro.

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    That page does not work without JS.

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    @TwilightKiddy I could get it with Curl, so will you.

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

    Nah, too much work for a text/picture/video that does not need JS to be displayed anyway. If admins are not interested in implementing proper fallbacks, I'm not interested in visiting their site, sorry.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

    Endeavour differs very little from Arch once you're past the installer. To the point I've never understood why it's a standalone distro instead of an optional Arch installer, as an alternative to/part of archinstall.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

    Arch for the bat crazy. Arch is bad as it is we don't need the Manjaro team involved

    [–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Close enough. I am an avid Arch user and i've used Manjaro before, and it broke just as much.

    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

    I'm glad that I get the full experience then.

    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Install Arch, it's not that difficult if you use Archinstall. Even the "manual" method isn't hard, just make the partitions and pacstrap all of the packages.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Thank you I will treasure it. I use Arch, btw.

    [–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Also drive Manjaro and I tell people I use Arch, there are dozens of us

    [–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I mean my Job is already giving me impostor syndrome... I really do not need my Distro to make me feel that way...

    [–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

    I've been a big fan of Manjaro for exactly that reason. Something breaks occasionally and gives my skills a run for their money but a lot of the difficulty of running a rolling release gets nullified by the testing Manjaro does for you. It's a great compromise, you get almost bleeding edge for much less work than an arch installation can take.

    I love me some Debian for their stability and security, I run Debian or Debian based servers mostly. But I wanted something closer to the bleeding edge for my desktop so I could make use of newer features, run newer packages etc...