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[โ€“] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Not that I was ever interested in being military, but I was at a lunch with two older lifelong army retirees. They kept talking about how military service broke their bodies and politicians won't cover their medical costs. These injuries were independent of any combat: It's just expected that you sell every part of yourself when you sign up.

Who wants to be 45 years old with a limp, be unable to hear a quiet conversation, and have horrible back problems?

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[โ€“] starlord@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Ask them to do so themselves, voluntarily.

If they refuse, the argument stands.

If they accept, you won't convince this person.

[โ€“] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Let's start with the second part of your question? How do you make someone understand that invading another country is not a good thing?

[โ€“] SLfgb@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago

You put the someone in a re-education camp

[โ€“] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

You start by giving up on making them understand.

[โ€“] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Issue is that "old people" had to spend their time in the army, sometimes even in a foreign land (Good old time of the colonial war), so kids these day feel so privileged

I mean, we can blame the boomer for a lot of thing, but in the 60's and sometimes 70's (In many countries) young men had no option but do a military service which way involved going to fight to keep the colonies.

[โ€“] Kalkaline@leminal.space 4 points 11 months ago

War is horrific. If we deem a military is necessary to a peaceful society to protect from threats both domestic and foreign, then we should have a draft of ALL able adults, not just the poor and underprivileged. Rich folks, political folks, and otherwise connected individuals should be subject to be put on the front lines right next to the rest of us. What that means is we might rethink, as a nation, any military action. An all volunteer military would be the next most preferable one that is paid equal or greater to the national average income with full lifetime benefits including healthcare for the whole body including mind, teeth, eyes, etc., pension, free education including masters and doctorate level education, housing, as well as meeting other basic needs of life.

Anything less than that should be unacceptable.

[โ€“] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't think it's wrong universally, for example, Ukraines current offensive into Russia.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine is using special forces for this, who are well paid professionals with strong ideological under pinnings. Those guys are into that shit.

OP is about Russian consript who got deployed in Ukraine "by mistake"

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[โ€“] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No argument for the draft is valid.

[โ€“] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Would you rather see Ukraine fall to Russia than implement a draft?

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[โ€“] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

You hold up your draft card and burn it.

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