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submitted 1 year ago by cerement@slrpnk.net to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

“The group got the idea for the conings by chance. The person claims a few of them walking together one night saw a cone on the hood of an AV, which appeared disabled. They weren’t sure at the time which came first; perhaps someone had placed the cone on the AV’s hood to signify it was disabled rather than the other way around. But, it gave them an idea, and when they tested it, they found that a cone on a hood renders the vehicles little more than a multi-ton hunk of useless metal. The group suspects the cone partially blocks the LIDAR detectors on the roof of the car, in much the same way that a human driver wouldn’t be able to safely drive with a cone on the hood. But there is no human inside to get out and simply remove the cone, so the car is stuck.”

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[-] tavu@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Amendments to anti-terrorism legislation incoming in 3.. 2.. 1..

[-] andrew@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago

I used to think automated cars might be a good thing because I expect them to behave more predictably than unqualified human drivers. Over time I've changed my mind. In the USA we currently have no way to stop harm from major companies like the ones investing in electric cars. A situation that feels incredibly likely will be that instead of facing jail time like an individual would, companies will receive trivial fines that they will price into the cost of the vehicle for harm caused by their fleets. This will prevent any sort of accountability for vehicles causing harm to living things.

[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I try to avoid Teslas and other automated vehicles on the road precisely because of how unpredictable automated driving is. When there is a human driver behind the wheel the vehicle behaves in human-like ways. It makes intuitive sense to me what the driver is doing and what they might do because it's basically what I would do.

With software there is no such connection to be made. The sensors might see something I don't and come to some conclusion a human never would. I find this to be inherently unsafe because it is unpredictable as a human.

In order for this to become safe all cars would likely have to be automated, but I don't think all cars could be automated unless all road infrastructure was updated and standardized otherwise there are going to be infinite tiny exceptions to the rules of how they operate.

Ultimately it kind of defeats the whole purpose. We might as well just build trains everywhere of various sizes. Trolly's, metros, subways, highspeed rail. Whatever it takes to condense the traffic and automate it on rails. Cars should be limited to the interstate and at low speed in suburbs. No cars should be in the middle of a dense city.

[-] swope@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

If you don't have a cone available, maybe a bit of tape on a sensor window?

I haven't tested this.

[-] WookieMunster@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Tape a white page to their cameras, should be easy enough

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Hilarious and non-violent protest. Win Win.

this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2023
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