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Just curious how many of you are cool with this deeply racist image being the header for one of your comms

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[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I'm not quite sure how a picture mocking a specific person for something other than race is racist, let alone deeply so.

[-] iie@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

when a majority white community mocks a chinese man by comparing his appearance to a yellow bear, it's a little weird

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 year ago

The comparisons were first made in China, actually. The only reason we even know about the comparison is because he got so offended by them, and we keep doing it because he's upset by it. It's more about shape than colour, especially since Xi Jinping tends to wear trousers.

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Hello Susaga! I'm going to repost a comment I made a few hours ago, in this instance:

"Things can undergo a transformation, just because the original usage might have been innocent. If something starts being used by white racists or western imperialists in a racist way, would ya look at that, it’s racist.

Also, it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability. Like you are doing now.

And there are historical precedents of this kind of racism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril"

[-] blazera@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Could you demonstrate that transformation with other examples from here? Other asian people being compared to other yellow characters? Or has it remained specifically one person compared to one character?

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Okay putting you down as being okay with it. Got it ty

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago

I'm okay with it because it's not racist. What is there in this picture to not be okay with?

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago
[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

What racism? You have yet to explain what's racist about this picture. I am willing to accept that I'm wrong and I'm just not seeing it from the right perspective, but you have to be willing to explain why rather than just condemn.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

You don't see why tinting an Asian person's skin yellow is racist? Would you say the same thing about this?

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alright, I can see that. Not deliberate, as they also tinted his suit red to heighten the comparison to Winnie the Pooh, who also has a yellow face, but I can see your perspective now you've actually given it. Deeply racist is absolutely a stretch, though, but "kinda racist" is absolutely correct.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Oh well as long as you're absolutely sure the obvious racism wasn't deliberate it's okay

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not obvious! You posted a picture of a dictator with accidental racist undertones, called it deeply racist, and condemned anyone who didn't agree with your perspective as racist, despite not actually giving your perspective! To most of us, we see "dictator" before we see "asian guy". You're not attacking the picture, you're attacking the people on the same server as the picture. You being so quick to condemn makes it look like you're defending a dictator more than amending injustice, and being so hesitant to explain your reasoning makes you look like a troll more than an activist.

You're a terrible representative of your own argument.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Just going to sum up the responses thus far

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

michael-laugh Keep up the good work, Foucaults!

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It ain't easy, but it's an honest days work

[-] blazera@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

The only times ive seen hexbear users show up is disingenuous trolling like this.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Also someone please tell this smuglord that his instance isn't federated with ours and we can't see or respond to his comments, lol

[-] variants@possumpat.io 35 points 1 year ago

Yeah I guess it is racist to say a singular person defines an entire race, you should maybe try not being so racist

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