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LGBT and Marginalized Voices Are Not Welcome on Threads (www.macstories.net)
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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Stop using proprietary social media. It's really not that hard folks. It's like all the artists got pissed their art was being used to train AI on Instagram. Wtf did you think was going to happen? Proprietary social media is a tool the owning class uses to monetize working-class people's content.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago

Tbf, artists are out making art hopefully and trying to have a life, they're not predicting that AI would steal everything about them. Blaming artists for corporations stealing their shit isn't cool.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

If the funeral director told you to play in the street would you?

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 11 points 4 months ago

If there was an offender and a victim would you blame the victim?

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

lmao like Lemmy is any better. every trans related thread is filled with trans-med apologists, or straight up trans-meds. TikTok, Tumblr, honestly also YouTube... all have thriving lgbtq communities and are proprietary. I know there are def downsides and issues with data being sold, but just bc a platform isn't propriety, that does not mean it'll be less filled with bigoted people.

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 10 points 4 months ago

In my experience which instance you're on (and, as a result, which instances populate your feed) heavily influences how much transmedicalism (and other bigotries) you encounter.

From what I see on your profile page, you mostly interact with lemmy.world communities. That's the biggest instance, that received the largest influx of reddit-quitters, notably.

In case you haven't encountered them, you might want to take a look at some of the communities hosted on lemmy.blahaj.zone.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I've been on many instances and have multiple accounts. Yes, I do agree it varies, but unfortunately outside the safe haven of blahaj and some leftist spaces, it's pretty consistently bad.

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

Fair enough

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Not my experience here at all

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Just looked up "transgender" for recent posts, here is one with many comments denying the ongoing genocidal legislation in the UK

https://lemmy.world/post/17236126?scrollToComments=true

Another thread I was just in had people saying JK Rowling didn't seem that bad, and had some good points.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Ok fair enough. I don't see comments there, I think I blocked that community

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Wtf is trans-med?

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

The idea that people who don’t experience dysphoria or who don’t wish to fully transition aren’t actually trans. This also excludes non binary trans people.

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So like “I feel like a woman inside, though I have boy parts, but I have no intention or desire to change my body” kind of thing?

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

The feeling like a particular gender inside is an outdated way of looking at transness. Some trans people might describe their feelings that way but it’s mostly used by cis people who try to understand being trans.

To answer your question though: gender dysphoria or euphoria does not have to be about how the body looks. Some trans people only experience it socially, which in an ideal world would mean that they didn’t have to transition.

There can also be many other reasons why a trans person wouldn’t want to transition (fully). Many trans people choose not to have bottom surgery because it’s an invasive surgery and might not be worth it to them.

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Transcendental Meditation? /s

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

To be blunt, there is way more toxicity and extreme views on Lemmy than on Reddit. I've seen worse things in 15 months of Lemmy than I've seen in 15 users of Reddit use.

[-] sparkle@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have to hard disagree. I went back to Reddit for a few days recently and the comments were a a cesspool of far-right views & alt-right views. It was like 50% off every comment section turned into r/TrueUnpopularOpinion, under any post that's slightly political you'll get downvoted for stating that trans people exist or that misogyny exists, and told how white people are disprivileged and discriminated against

The worst one by far though was under a pizzacake comic about how women dealing with dangerous/creepy men going after them frequently from childhood leads to them being extremely cautious/scared of men, which men then take as the woman being a bitch. You can only imagine how heated that got and the brigade of conservatives and centrists defending the conservatives lol

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

My feeling is Lemmy and Reddit both suck terribly. Reddit has the advantage of having more people, so left-leaning subreddits are just larger by default, and there is a higher population of people who aren't white IT guys. Lemmy users, in my experience, are also sexist, transphobic etc, but are very eloquent about it and mods will jump on you for telling a transphobe they're an asshole. Lemmy is up it's ass on "civility" rules, but these are enforced unequally depending on what opinions you are sharing. Basically if you downplay genocide but say it without swearing, that is considered somehow more civil than telling transphobes to fuck off.

[-] good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Just curious, are you on Hexbear? lemmy.world isn't federated with them so you may not have seen their posts/posters. They're pretty harsh on transphobes and are one of the best trans spaces i've been on.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I made an account but haven't used it much, seemed a bit slow and I like to use Lemmy for news. I agree though, the vibe is completely different!!

[-] good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Understandable, it does get a little slow at times.

Come participate in our trans megathread sometime!

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

There are bots scrapping everything everywhere.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Scraping

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Thank you for your ableism

[-] off_brand_@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

A one word correction doesn't really have to be nefarious does it? Not like they said "don't listen to this person, they can't spell"

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Scrapping too

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have a friend who runs a small Facebook meme page (not monetized so that's not a factor), and the content is pretty unmistakably fairly often explicitly leftist and/or queer and so is the audience. They've said that every time they post a picture with gender identity and sexual orientation-related keywords the audience of the post is lower than it is otherwise, ie. it gets shown to fewer people compared to other posts made around the same time. Whether this is actually true or not is anybody's guess since my friend has definitely not been systematic about this and the variation might just be noise.

Now even if it is true, it it doesn't necessarily mean Meta is intentionally suppressing that stuff, and it might just be that the content just is less popular and it has nothing to do with it having the word "gay" or whatever, but I'm not entirely convinced it's not malicious either. Meta has a real habit of leaving actual hate speech be when reported, but happily removing comments from people calling an actual homophobe a homophobe etc. etc. Apparently there was a picture of Hitler with the text "miss me yet?" making the rounds; my friend reported it and got told it's fine 🤷

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Meta has a real habit of leaving actual hate speech be when reported, but happily removing comments from people calling an actual homophobe a homophobe

Exactly my experience. Homophobe says heinous shit. Report them and then call them a bigoted piece of shit. My comment removed, theirs left, me banned for a period of time.

Then they did me the favor of permanently banning me for posting that nude image of trump... Lol, a year or more after I posted it.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah this is why I keep my Facebook use to a minimum, just for events etc.

[-] finley@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I quit Twitter and Facebook and Instagram in the early days of Covid when they became way too toxic to tolerate. Why did anyone think that Legacy social media would change?

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 14 points 4 months ago

No surprise here. Facebook is also happy to keep hate speech up, but if you write "white people suck" as a white person, your comment gets removed and the appeal will be rejected, if it's reviewed at all. But hey, saying all poc should be shot or something is totally fine.

[-] acausal_masochist@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

For many, Threads understandably felt like a breath of fresh air following the chaos that engulfed Twitter. Unlike the latter, Threads is not run by someone that I and many others find to be an exceptionally despicable human.

This is... telling.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

No shit.

[-] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Thus mastodon accounts immediately closed when the manipulative assholes who run the big ones decided to federate with meta.

Sure, dear, we can have Doctor Mengele over for dinner.

[-] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

we're going to have to stay on mastodon for at least until someone tells us about how good the moderation is

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