322
Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’ (pivot-to-ai.com)
submitted 4 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems
184 comments fedilink hide all child comments

we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] alansuspect@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago

I'll mention I went to Fastmail (mainly because they're an Aus company as well as the privacy stuff), so far so good.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

fastmail is viciously anti union however https://union.place/@fastmailunited/112672408714595554

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 20 points 4 months ago

ah fuck I wasn’t aware of this, thanks for mentioning

off the list they go

[-] Banshee@midwest.social 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I ended up settling on Infomaniak's kSuite after looking around. They're a mid-sized registrar and hosting company.

They're partially employee owned (and I believe in the process of becoming fully owned by employees). I'll grant their privacy policy is just standard EU/Swiss boilerplate, though (stuff like no sharing your data, etc., that you always find in EU paid services like this). GDPR compliance was all I was looking for.

The web client looks nice and kDrive is affordably priced if you need a Google docs/photos/drive alternative.

Edits: clarity and me refreshing my memory on their privacy policy

[-] BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Was hesitating between Proton and Ksuite.

I was already pouting toward them, but you finished to convince me to go to Infomaniak, thanks!

[-] Banshee@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

I've been using them for my domain and email for almost a year now and I have no complaints. I had to talk to customer support twice to fix a couple things that came up and they got back to me right away. Can't say the same for the last service I used lol

I think it's fair to point out they're not designed around encryption like proton is. It's not a factor in my threat model because I treat email as non-private communication, but it's something you should know if you're wanting proton for that reason.

kDrive is a heavily customized Nextcloud/OnlyOffice implementation with a pretty new and well-regarded file sync algorithm they implemented last year. I would recommend cryptomator to client side encrypt anything you want to protect. It's at rest encrypted, but not end-to-end because there's nothing client side.Here's a list of WebDAV urls from the Cryptomator community to help you set it up. KDrive is on there.

Anyway, hope it works out for you!

[-] BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

It's mostly for private/family matters so that seems perfect for my need.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain like you did, really appreciate it :)

[-] alansuspect@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah I saw that, pretty shitty. I also didn't even realise they had a US division, given how they tout themselves as an Australian company.

this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2024
322 points (100.0% liked)

TechTakes

1416 readers
179 users here now

Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
dgerard@awful.systems