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Exactly. Building nuclear power plants in the 80s should've been the way humanity went. Now, advancements in batteries (Sodium ion for example) and established supply chains means that solar/wind + batteries is the way to go.
I don't agree with ur safety take on nuclear energy though. All nuclear energy accidents were the result of shitty operational management who were warned waaaay before. It's like airlines in the 60s, where safety standards were hilariously bad. Now, with extremely stringent regulations, we can solve the safety issues.
Shitty operational management is systemic in organisations that operate huge centralized systems though. see: normal accidents accidents
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_Accidents
I would disagree. Take a look at airplanes for instance. Good safety policy measures and enforcement can make seemingly high risk operations incredibly safe. Take a look at French nuclear reactors for example. Good nuclear safety policies, hence no accidents.
Those things that Boeing builds?
Less people die on airplanes than other modes of transport. So yeah, that's the level of safety despite Boeing's bullshit.
Less people travel by planes than other modes of transport.
If you look unitary numbers, planes in general are safer than most things, not by any absurd margin. And Boeing has more than one model that just isn't safer than most things.
That should show you how bad management can destroy any kind of safety policy. But I guess it won't, not by fault of the facts.
Japan has high safety standards
Just wanna add that storing energy can also be done in other forms than electricity. For example, pump water up a hill with solar energy during daytime, and use turbines and gravity during the night
Getting more efficient and cost effective at a rapid pace. Still some environmental concerns over manufacturing, raw materials acquisition, and disposal of old equipment.
Getting more efficient and cost effective at a less rapid pace. Still significant environmental concerns over manufacturing, raw materials acquisition, and disposal of old equipment.
Lots of effort and resources needed for this part. Need to subsidize consumer appliance conversion better.
Nuclear waste is incredibly safe and disasters simply don't happen anymore because of how strict safety protocols are
I certainly agree that we've gotten much better at safely producing and storing. However, with climate change worsening, we continue to have unprecedented natural disasters in unexpected areas which concerns me the most.
What kind of climate change disaster do you think would cause problems with nuclear waste storage?
It's all very well claiming that nuclear waste storage is safe but you can't guarantee anything can be kept safe for 10000 years. Humans haven't managed that for anything, ever.
You can't really guarantee anything. What we do is play the odds. And the odds are pretty good.
Except you have no emperical basis for judging the accuracy of those odds.
Actually I do. Simply look at injured people because of nuclear power and compare them to injured people because of any alternative.
Yes, you can.
It’s been stored in the ground since the earth was formed.
Not in a highly refined form
It’s been stored in the ground since the earth was formed.
"not in a highly refined form"