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Am I the only one who missed the Owncloud rewrite in Go? (owncloud.com)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Lem453@lemmy.ca to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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The topic of self-hosted cloud software comes up often but I haven't seen anyone mention owncloud infinite scale (the rewrite in Go).

I started my cloud experience with owncloud years ago. Then there was a schism and almost all the active devs left for the nextcloud fork.

I used nextcloud from it's inception until last year but like many others it always felt brittle (easy to break something) and half baked (features always seemed to be at 75% of what you want).

As a result I decided to go with Seafile and stick to the Unix philosophy. Get an app that does one thing very well rather than a mega app that tries to do everything.

Seafile does this very well. Super fast, works with single sign on etc. No bloat etc.

Then just the other day I discovered that owncloud has a full rewrite. No php, no Apache etc. Check the github, multiple active devs with lots of activity over the last year etc. The project seems stronger than ever and aims to fix the primary issues of nextcloud/owncloud PHP. Also designed for cloud deployment so works well with docker, should be easy to configure via docker variables instead of config files mapped into the container etc.

Anyways, the point of this thread is:

If you never heard of it like me then check it out
If you have used it please post your experiences compared to NextCloud, Seafile etc.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What puts me off of Owncloud is the new ownership. I couldn't care less if it's written in the blood of Christ, if I have to worry about the rug getting pulled out from under me for self-hosting, it's a no-go for me, Joe.

Nextcloud works well for me and has for years. The people that don't like it can go use this, and we'll see you back in a couple of years when it goes open-core or worse.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ya it was bought by kiteworks which provides document management services for corps (which explains why that mention traceable file access in their features a lot).

~~That being said, they bought them in 2014 it seems and it's been a decade now~~ Correcting: they were bought very recently, they have been accepting corporate funding for more than a decade however. That's not bad in and of itself.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have no issue with corporate funding. I have an issue when a company gets to make all the decisions. Lot of good software has gone to hell when the shareholders need profit now instead of seeing a long term vision.

We'll see, but I've been around this rodeo enough to just avoid it from the start and take some pain now instead of putting in effort that's going to be wasted later.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it goes bad fork it. Just look at what is now the fossify apps

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I mean... We already have a very well built fork.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Open source or bust

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nextcloud needs to port over some of the old OC Documentation. Their own docs make all kinds of references and it's always something esoteric.