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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by HumanPenguin@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

This is opinion. So read it as such. But consider it please.

Obviously if you read this based on the title. I assume you oppose the Tories.

But if you are wondering why labour are so keen to manage expectations. There is a reason.

Campaign funding wise the Tories are estimated to be 19m ahead of labour. But honestly at the moment they are not spending a huge amount more.

We know the Tories are skilled at election manipulation. So there is genuine fear that the Tories plan to launch a campaign within the last few days.

I.E. when there is less time and funding to ensure fact checking is effective.

They know Starmer is more publicity aware then Corbyn was. He is able to play it in a way that dose not scare traditional Conservative voters.

They also know thanks to Boris, that the courts are unable to punish them for outright lies during any political campaign. And that Rishi is prepared to lie about and accuse civil servants of lying when challenged.

As huge as polling is against the Tories. All it would take is some dramatic claim against the party or Starmer. To convince Tory traditional voters to bite their tongue and vote Tory. While convincing left wing voters not to vote or to switch to 3rd party in seats where labour are the 1st or 2nd party.

The fact we know they have a huge amount of money unspent. Makes it clear they plan to launch something nearer the end of the election. And the only advantage of leaving it so late. Is it will limit the ability of the party to effectively react. Or fact checkers to be able to prove and distribute evidence of lies.

Please be prepared for this.

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[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

Fine. Don't vote. But don't complain things don't change. Perfect is the enemy of good. Me, I'm for getting rid of Tories then FPTP. I know the first is on offer, I hope for the second. As do the majority of Labour party members, so I have hope.

Refusing to vote just gets you ignored. It's also being peddled by the rightwing to try and disengage left leaners and reduce their voting power. Both in the UK and US. This Labour might to be as left as many would like, but they are more left than this Conservatives.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

You are literally illiterate. I never said I wouldn't vote, I said you are trying to change the voting system by using it, without doing anything that would actually change the voting system, and as such you political advice is worthless. Less than worthless, in fact, seeing as it doesn't even go beyond voting. Literally the only thing you'll do is vote, and when your vote changes nothing you'll go back in 5 years and uncritically vote again.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

I'm dyslexic and even paying the half attention I have, is probably too much for what seams to be hexbear trolling. Nothing says troll more than torrents of insults.

If your real, just vote too keep Tories out or don't complain about them. Then advocate for better voting to keep them out of unchecked power again.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

You're well aware that dyslexia is no excuse for refusing to engage with the content of people's arguments, and that you are literally advocating inaction as a method of political change, so the insults are more than justified. That you flinch from political discussion at the hint of incivility just shows how deeply unserious and indefensible your liberalism is.

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