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Liberty Hub: A Space for Leftists and Post-Leftists
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Anyone is welcome, not just leftists, but these are the guidelines:
- No oppressing other users (bigotry is oppression). This includes not using the r-slur (or any variation thereof).
- No defending oppressive systems such as capitalism or the US "democracy."
- No uncivil or rude comments to other users (politicians and capitalists are fair game).
- No ax murderers, serial killers, neoliberals, torturers, cops, cryptobros, debatebros, or similar.
- Discussion, not debate. It's okay to ask someone to elaborate on an idea, but most communities shout down leftists and post-leftists, and that's not supposed to happen here. This includes especially "whatabout Trump" on posts criticizing Biden.
- No genocide denial or support for genocidal entities such as IDF, ICE, the US prison system, or likewise.
- Transphobes eat my ass.
- These guidelines are meant to allow open discussion and prevent the constant trolling of leftists and post-leftists that happens in places like reddit and Facebook. Follow the spirit of these guidelines.
If you are here to learn, then welcome! Remember this is not a debate hub. This is a place to share and learn.
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The main reason I started this is because I know it's hard to have a discussion in non-leftist spaces without constantly having to stop and explain fundamental ideas, so I hope this will give a space and a voice to anyone who's felt frustrated like me.
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"Yes the genocide in Palestine is horrible ~~but at least it's not me~~"
There's always an implied ending to that statement.
I'm convinced that a lot of their willingness to close their eyes to just how atrocious things like the Palestinian genocide and Mexican border camps are is fueled by racism.
White liberals being racist? Shit man, is the pope catholic?
You know what? I'd be okay with that. At least they should be honest about it.
I totally get voting for Biden due to self interest. It sucks. But I get it. Self-preservation and all that.
But don't pretend he's the lesser evil. He's just the evil that benefits you and not someone else.
You'd be ok with white American liberals thinking their lives are more important than those of brown people? I'm not ok with that.
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I mean, people are looking out for their own self interest in general. I think that's horrible and it needs addressing.
But it's the hypocrisy that really gets me when it comes to liberals.
Their whole worldview is destroying us and the planet. Hypocrisy is bad, but there are far worse things about liberalism in my opinion.
Remove the hypocrisy, and you have overt fascists. I'd not call that much of an improvement.
Fair enough
I agree with you though that the hypocrisy is also troubling. The hypocrisy is what they use to persuade people that they're on "their side," so to speak. That's why I always make it a point to highlight the fact that they're not our allies. We're only tactically useful to them.