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this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2024
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The intent of someone's speech, or even its outcome, does not make it incorrect. A culture of hiding from reality thinking in doing so it will give us certain outcomes is what this practice will create.
Saying something that is technically correct is still wrong if it is done so in a way that causes people to be hurt unnecessarily.
Edit: Strawmaning me while talking about how truth is important is the biggest irony.
So we need to shut people up who's information we percieve will give us outcomes we don't like? I guess the nazis gave that ago and if it worked for them I guess we should do the same. But if we have decided to live in a post-truth world of our own creation, how are we going to make an honest assessment of what true information is actually harmful. We could just be lying to ourselves about that too.
Here is a good rule of thumb. Never lie to yourself. Never hide from information. Anything else is just developing anti-intellectual habits.
It kind of reminds me of a quote from And Justice For All from Metallica. "Seeking no truth. Winning is all. Fighting so grim so true so real."
When both sides frame what is true or false by what will help them win that that's how you end up with a post truth world. Of course that can be easily corrected by lying to ourselves again and claiming that only one side has blame. There is nothing a lie to ourselves can't fix.
I agree. However, the entirety of your comment fails to address what I've said. Would you like to try again?
No. Not really. I think creating a post-truth world is more harmful. The way you get around the "harm" of true information is by encouraging people to process true information more maturely. Not by hiding it. There is no harm in truth by itself.
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So. Instead of just saying that both sides are bad (which is a fair opinion to have) you couch that information (or the data that you used to derive it) in statements that allow for good outcomes to the best of your ability. You're probably going to say something along the lines of "people need to be better at understanding things" as a counter-point to what I'm saying, but remember: we don't pick our audience. It's on us to craft what we say to convey the information we want in ways that will lead to the desired results.
This is called “being manipulative” and no, it is not something that we need to do.
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Being afraid of truth is a bandaid. Yes, sometimes saying a truth can cause short-term harm. Like Biden supporting war crimes. But if you start silencing truths instead of countering them with more truth, it just proves you don't really believe you have the truth on your side. The group who is unwilling to face the truth, is sure to lose it all together.